Works for me; I actually never experience those issues with libido or lethargy because I always stack my cycles with either R-Andro, 4-Andro, or Epi-Andro (4 caps daily). ebfitness15 for your discount code if you need to pick anything up!They recommended to take a low diesel of test to combat hard shut down. People said running it alone they experienced things like shut down, lethargy, feeling like shit, lose of appetite, etc. So I'm trying to figure out if Epi or 4 andro would suffice.