MSTEN 4-ad Halo cycle opinion please

duitman · Aug 4, 2013

Going to start a lean mass cycle hopefully soon. Have not used PHs or steroids in 5 years. Im 27 5'11 220lbs Bench press 350x4. Reason for PHs choices is I have to stay on the legal side of things. MY goal is to reach 230lbsweek 1-4
msten 30mg ed
halo 75mg ed
4-ad 3-4 caps ed
econtrol 3 cap ed
cycle support
PCT
week 4-8
Clomid 50 ed
e control 3 caps ed
ulstra male 1 cap ed

duitman · Aug 4, 2013

If I bumped the halo up to 6 weeks could I do the same with everything? .... would 6 weeks be the way to go?

The Neck · Aug 5, 2013

Cycle looks solid, 10lbs will be an easy goal.

Adrenolin · Aug 9, 2013

duitman said:
Going to start a lean mass cycle hopefully soon. Have not used PHs or steroids in 5 years. Im 27 5'11 220lbs Bench press 350x4. Reason for PHs choices is I have to stay on the legal side of things. MY goal is to reach 230lbsweek 1-4
msten 30mg ed
halo 75mg ed
4-ad 3-4 caps ed
econtrol 3 cap ed
cycle support
PCT
week 4-8
Clomid 50 ed
e control 3 caps ed
ulstra male 1 cap ed

I'd recommend all 3 hormones for 6wks. You could run the Ultra Male ON cycle, but I'd save the E-Control solely for PCT as non of the compounds aromatize to any significant degree and Ultra Male works as a mild AI as well.

CYCLE
Weeks 1 - 6
M-Sten
3 caps ed (upon waking)

Halo
3 caps ed (upon waking)

4-Andro
3 caps ed (upon waking)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Ultra Male
1 cap ed (prior to bed)

PCT
Weeks 7 - 10
Clomid
50mg ed (prior to bed)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Weeks 10 - 12
E-Control
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Ultra Male (18 days)
1 cap ed (prior to bed)

You'll Need
2x M-Sten
2x Halo
2x 4-Andro
2x ACS
1x Ultra Male
1x E-Control

duitman · Aug 9, 2013

thanks for the input i was thinking off adding in Tamoxifin... Do you think thats a waste?

Adrenolin · Aug 9, 2013

duitman said:
thanks for the input i was thinking off adding in Tamoxifin... Do you think thats a waste?

If you mean in addition to the clomid, then yes. It is completely unnecessary.

duitman · Aug 9, 2013

Great thanks... Placing my order with superior end of the month.

5lbDumbBell · Aug 24, 2013

adrenolin said:
I'd recommend all 3 hormones for 6wks. You could run the Ultra Male ON cycle, but I'd save the E-Control solely for PCT as non of the compounds aromatize to any significant degree and Ultra Male works as a mild AI as well.

CYCLE
Weeks 1 - 6
M-Sten
3 caps ed (upon waking)

Halo
3 caps ed (upon waking)

4-Andro
3 caps ed (upon waking)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Ultra Male
1 cap ed (prior to bed)

PCT
Weeks 7 - 10
Clomid
50mg ed (prior to bed)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Weeks 10 - 12
E-Control
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps ed (prior to bed)

Ultra Male (18 days)
1 cap ed (prior to bed)

You'll Need
2x M-Sten
2x Halo
2x 4-Andro
2x ACS
1x Ultra Male
1x E-Control

I have a question; can a beginner run this stack as their first cycle, or would it be better/safer to scale it back
i.e. shorter duration/less compounds.
thanks in advance.

5lbDumbBell · Sep 6, 2013

So a simpler cycle of say;

M-sten 2 caps ed
4-andro 2 caps ed
with ACS 2 caps ed

for 4 weeks (with proper PCT after) be better for a beginner? Or is 2 compounds still too much?

5lbDumbBell · Sep 8, 2013

BiggieSmallz said:
define beginner? A/S/L?

j/k

how old r u? what's your lifting experience? weight? height? bf%? goals?

I'm 23
5'10" and 169lbs
and I've been lifting for 5 years now

I'm looking for mass gains; the leaner the better.