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    M-Sten sides

    Started my M-Sten Cycle 3 days ago. So far so good, I think. I probably should of waited a few more pounds to start my first cycle, but, I got antsy, so I am really seeing some fast results in the gym. My pumps are ridiculous and they last all day. However, I did notice a few things, some concerning, some not. Focus. Is this stuff like adderall or some shit?! I am super focused and aware throughout the day I feel, and I feel like I can't sit still. I guess this is good? Hunger. I. Cant. Stop. Eating. My diet is really clean, and was before I started. But before I started my cycle I would finish my 6-7 meals a day, and I would just be forcing food down by the last one. Now I am eating 7 meals and still snacking. Mouth sores? This might be a coincidence of some sort. But I have one, maybe two sores inside my mouth. I guess I am a carrier of HPV, and the hormones caused an outbreak, anyone heard of this? Overall, my mood has increased drastically, even if its a placebo effect, I will take it. I am taking ACS and Ultra Male. Just curious what you guys think about all this.

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    Oh yeah, AND my heart rate is definitely elevated for about 3 hours after I take my pill

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    Most of what you are describing is pretty normal for msten, albeit normally it takes a bit longer than 3 days. Mouth sores are coincidental, as are many things on cycle, but hunger, pumps, and elevated mood are normal sides, and good ones. The adderall effect you describe is one i havent experienced on msten but it sounds fun! I suffer from sleep apnea so i may not receive that benefit. Anyhow, you are ok, just relax, have fun, eat alot, drink lots of water, and enjoy!
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    Also, save the ultra male for when ur cycle is over
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    sweet, thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chez View Post
    Also, save the ultra male for when ur cycle is over
    Agreed!
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    Just wanna say I am half way through Day 4 of my cycle, so I still have one more pill to take today. And holy shit is this stuff insane. I was a total monster in the gym today. Like I said, I was a little "too" thin when I started so I am seeing crazy results. I have already put on 4 pounds. My abs and chest look shredded and my bi's feel way bigger. My sleep is not so good, but, it is doable, I'll be fine. I also can't stop eating, I feel like every time I eat I just get hungrier. All in all, doing good. I usually rest on the weekends because I do a full body HIT work out M-W-F. I might go in tomorrow and just blast out bi/tri/shoulders or something though, considering the cycle seems to be helping with recovery time also.
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    Awesome brother, sounds like its going to work out great for you
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    Some feed back, I guess this is slowly turning into an M-Sten log. I am up almost 9 pounds, which obviously is insane. Kind of fun/scary considering people claim it wont really kick in until week 3 and I am not done with week 1, this should be interesting haha. My feeling of "extreme focus" I tried to describe has wore off a bit. Mood is still up, has also came back down to normal slightly. I think my libido is down,but it could also be stress. Havent been waking up with the usual solid dick, more of a half ass-post sex boner. Sleep has gotten kind of bad too, also could be stress, its a bad month for stress. Mouth sores are gone. Strength and weight, are through the roof right now. Cant stop eating either. I have been on a very high fat and high protein diet (keto) for a really long time. And I have never craved carbs like this since I first started my keto diet. I was reluctant to give in, but I did, its whatever, not going to kill me. Thats my update! hope this is helping out some new PH users.

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    Well, week one is done (i have one more cap to take this evening). So far my strength gains are enormous, and I never seem to get tired. Had to cut my work out off today because I just couldnt stop. week one done, and I hit 10 pounds this morning. Curious to see how much of that is water weight though. My sides- bacne, nothing too disgusting yet. My sleep is pretty shitty. I can fall asleep fine, but it is only for like 5 hours, kind of annoying but it is only a month so whatever. Libido? ehh... little worried that my dick is broke. No more morning erections what so ever. Usually I can get hard just from the spank bank alone. Clicked some porn on and he still works, but it wasnt like before... Has me a little worried, but trying to relax and enjoy the ride. If my dick gets back and running after my cycle, totally worth it. If not. well shit. And I do have head aches every day. not all day, but every day. And I am probably having more than the recommended water.

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    I'd add in 4 caps of 4-Andro daily for libido and to prevent lethargy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    I'd add in 4 caps of 4-Andro daily for libido and to prevent lethargy.
    this might be a stupid question. But when we talk about libido, do we only refer to our sex drive, or are we also referring to just over all "boner quality" and "natural frequency"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StillDyl View Post
    this might be a stupid question. But when we talk about libido, do we only refer to our sex drive, or are we also referring to just over all "boner quality" and "natural frequency"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
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    Ok cool. So this question is a little from left field, sorry. But, for my next cycle, assuming this all goes well and I recover well, I wanted to either do DMZ 3.0 or do M-Sten w/ 4andro. Would stacking 4Andro now with my current M-Sten stack affect my future results? Is that a thing? Does your body "get use to" certain PH's and they lose their affect later on?

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    Sounds like my DMZ 2.0 cycle. The first 2-3 days my blood pressure went really high; enough that I could actually feel the increase (about 145/70 normally 120/60 give or take). It went down after those first few days to maybe 130/65 which is just fine.

    I also noticed that I had some increased focus, however this was coupled with a slightly spaced out feeling towards the end of the cycle. Had all the other sides you stated as well, both the good and the bad.

    I added 4 andro in for the second half of my cycle, but I'm not sure that it helped. In theory it should help, but I couldn't tell the difference. I think its on sale now, so maybe worth a try?

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    Quote Originally Posted by p51mustang View Post
    Sounds like my DMZ 2.0 cycle. The first 2-3 days my blood pressure went really high; enough that I could actually feel the increase (about 145/70 normally 120/60 give or take). It went down after those first few days to maybe 130/65 which is just fine.

    I also noticed that I had some increased focus, however this was coupled with a slightly spaced out feeling towards the end of the cycle. Had all the other sides you stated as well, both the good and the bad.

    I added 4 andro in for the second half of my cycle, but I'm not sure that it helped. In theory it should help, but I couldn't tell the difference. I think its on sale now, so maybe worth a try?
    How many caps did you run? Personally, I feel all the Andros need to be run at at least 4 caps...but they definitely work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    I'd add in 4 caps of 4-Andro daily for libido and to prevent lethargy.
    I always run my cycles with 4 andro. Definetly worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    How many caps did you run? Personally, I feel all the Andros need to be run at at least 4 caps...but they definitely work.
    I was at 4 a day, 2am + 2pm. I think ill try 6 next time as I have a bit tucked away. I'm guessing that at 4 it probably reduced the sides a bit, but to a lesser extent.

    The SDMZ kicked ass though, despite me getting a nasty cold mid-cycle that slowed me down for a week :/

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    I am considering bumping up my 4th week of this M-sten to 30mg a day, and if I do that, I will most definately run the 4-ANDRO with it. I woke up this morning with a solid erection and I slept great. So either my body is adjusting to the hormones well, or stress and stuff dropping off is helping. Probably both. I have a nice little stash of M-Sten though so I am kind of wanting to bump it up the last week for max results, but I may just save it for another cycle entirely that involves all around higher doses

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    My gains have really plateaued and my sides are none. I feel the same as if I was doing this clean. Still wrestling with the idea of bumping it up to 3 caps... I threw on about 8 dry pounds right away, kept eating and eating, working crazy hard in the gym, and the gains just stopped. 8 pounds is amazing, just was expecting more by now, especially from the instant blow up I had.

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