When I was a young man we didn't have 60 different ways to run PCT or drugs. We ate big, trained like animals, filled the syringe and injected then got some sleep at the end of the day. If you asked us how many macro's we were eating we would have looked at you like you were fucking nuts and then we would have gotten back to our training. 25 years ago I spent 6 days per week in the gym. Heavy volume training with very little rest between sets. We went there to work and we worked like slaves being beaten by their master. We didn't need much cardio because we trained so fast. No time to talk or hang out. Just 4 quick sets on an exercise, grab a drink of water and off to the next exercise and repeat. Food was meat and potatoes. I would eat at least a pound and a half of beef per day. Drugs were simple, take 4-5 d-bol every day for 8 weeks with some Test then jump off with no PCT. 8 weeks off and then 8 weeks on and repeat.
You want results?
1. Eat big
2. Train very hard
3. Get some rest
4. Take some super sups
PCT is good but come on guys. Quit making screwing in a light bulb a mission to the moon. Ultra Male~1 cap a day for 4-6 weeks or use a SERM. 20mg Nola daily for 4-6 weeks.
Anyway, I keep seeing threads on 60 different ways to screw in the light bulb and its not complicated. Get to fucking work in the gym and at the kitchen table.