I just started osta on Sunday! Had an insane pump yesterday doing shoulders. Just one question do you recommend taking anything pct wise with it?
Clomid will help for sure. Progress pic looks great brother!!
Did you get really tired and feel all weird and you first started taking it? Idk if I'm dosing to high or what it is. I'm doing 2 pills a day to start at 20mg each
good work m8, starting with a good base! Also you asked in another thread about making lean gains.... check out leangains.com (feel free to browse links under "most popular" tab) it'll give you the diet breakdown (or rough idea) for making lean gains on just about anything you choose to run next... get diet down and pick any compound. Really if you just eat+lift consciously, and pay attention to every nuance, it'll fall together anyways, but the links help.
^^It's not uncommon for guys to overexhert themselves physically while on supplements, so you may just be overworking past your limits. Again I don't know your capabilities nor your workouts, but you may be overstressing it with either too much weight, or too frequent workouts, or a bit of both. Taking a few days to a week off to deload if that is indeed the case would not hurt you in the least bit, and you'll come back stronger and more energized a week later anyway... the idea being it lets the body catch up on healing/repairing. At least that's one possibility, the other would be the estrogen bit, can google "symptoms of low estrogen" and see if it applies directly, and then treat whichever issue you feel closer resembles your situation. Have fun man, don't hurt yourself
I would keep at it but deload for a week, lower the intensity and lower the total volume for the week. But I would still go at least five times and see how you feel as the week progresses.
Try to focus on your sleep and adding some extra calories. Sleep will make a huge difference if you have been over training. Keep us informed of how it going.
I know when I went on my dmz cycle I was way to aggressive on my total volume in my plan. I thought I was some kind of super hero. lol It was a poor workout plan to much intensity and not enough recovery. By week three I had to cut way back in order to get recovery back in line. I would still get in the gym 6 days if I were you. lower the intensity and focus on your recovery with sleep and nutrition.
You make some valid points. But here is what I am saying:
He is so young that he is not over training. I read his workouts on the days he posted. Someone that young should be able to recover from those workouts with no supplements what so ever!!
So my point is either nutrition or sleep is not what it should be. The workouts described are not that big or difficult for a young person to recover from.
But you to have to listen to your body and do the right amount. A week off at that age seems a bit much unless you were coming off a full year of hard training. But I do agree with your points. Two sides to every coin.