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    First time Halo and 4Andro cutting/recomp cycle log

    Hi Guys

    as promised I'm gonna have a log about my first cycle. the cycle looks as follows:

    Week 1-6
    Halo Extreme 3 caps ed (2 9am, 1 around 6pm post workout)
    4-Andro 3 caps ed (2 9am, 1 around 6pm post workout)
    Advanced Cycle Support 3 caps ed (prior to bed)

    Week 7-10
    Nolva 20mg ed (prior to bed)
    Advanced Cycle Support 3 caps ed (prior to bed)
    Ultra Male 1 cap ed (prior to bed)

    Week 10-12
    E-Control 3 caps ed (prior to bed)
    Advanced Cycle Support 3 caps ed (prior to bed)
    Ultra Male 1 cap ed (prior to bed)

    Stats:
    Age: 24
    Height 5.7
    Weight: 163 pounds
    lifting seriously for around 5 years ( I was really fat and cut down 90 pounds over the last 1.5years)

    I am going to start my cycle with a cut to get rid of some of the xmas fluff I put on.
    once I hit 160 pounds I will transition into a recomp.

    I am on a high volume high frequency full body routine with rest-pause style lifting.

    I alternate between A and B for 6 days a week with a rest day on Sunday.

    A:

    Front squats/Leg Press
    Weighted Chin-ups (shoulder width grip)
    Weighted Push-ups (shoulder issue with BP at the moment)
    Seated rows (wide grip, pull bar to pecs)
    Leg curls
    Concentration curls (alternate between arms with no/minimal rest)
    Rope pressdowns
    Standing calf raises
    Wide grip upright rows (barbell or cable)
    Cable Chest Flyes

    B:

    Romanian deadlifts
    Weighted Pull-ups (wide grip)
    Weighted Push-ups (shoulder issue with BP at the moment)
    Chest-supported dumbbell rows (let elbows flare away from body)
    Leg extensions
    Incline dumbbell curls
    Overhead extensions
    Seated calf raises
    Side lateral raises (dumbbell or cable)
    Reverse Flyes

    I increase the weight when I can hit 12 reps in my first set.

    I took my first 2 caps of halo and 4andro this morning. don't feel anything special yet.

    this week will be a deload week where I only do my first set of each exercise every day.
    I thought it would be a good idea to do this at the beginning of the cycle so I don't need to take one while the halo is in full swing.

    I will try to update the log daily but I will definitely update it weekly.

    excited to see where this takes me.

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    took 3 caps of halo and 4a yesterday and everything seems to be fine. gonna take the next dose soon.

    diet yesterday was shitty because I had some leftovers from my cheat day so I killed them.
    now that all the bad food is gone my diet will look as follows:

    3 eggs
    1l whole milk
    250g lean beef
    250g chicken breast
    4 cups green beans
    2 cups broccoli
    1 scoop whey

    this adds up to around 1730 calories: 180p/86c/65f

    I am trying to go as low carb as possible for the cut because I have had good results with it in the past.
    if I feel I need to increase them I will.
    maintenance calories are usually around 2500-2600.
    do I need to increase the protein on cycle?

    training was ok yesterday. since it is my deload week I only did the first set of each exercise.
    on a deload week I get 60 total reps per muscle group. on a normal week I get at least 180 reps per muscle group.
    so the fun part doesn't begin til next monday really =)

    here are my numbers from yesterdays workout. nothing out of the ordinary
    Lifting Stats(in pounds):

    A:
    Leg Press: 795x12
    Weighted Chin-up: BW+25x10
    Weighted Push-Ups: BW+45x12
    Wide Grip Cable Rows: 130x10
    Seated Leg Curls: 115x13
    Concentration Curls: 27.5x11
    Triceps Pushdown(rope attachment): 75x12
    standing calf raises(squat machine): 250x20
    cable upright row: 105x12

    cable chest flyes: 30x15 (still going easy on them because of my shoulder)

    I'm gonna add some pics once all the bloat from my cheat day is gone.
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    Day 2 went by fine. feeling good nothing special (I don't expect to feel it until some point in the 3rd week)

    diet was on point as posted yesterday. I'm always hungry so cutting is always a pain.
    deload workout went fine. still only did the first set of each exercise. attached you'll find the numbers:

    B:
    Romanian Deadlift: 265x12
    Pull-Ups: BW+10 x10
    Weighted Push-Ups: BW+45x11
    Chest supported Dumbbell Row (elbows out): 65x10
    Leg Extensions: 160x11
    Incline Dumbbell Curl: 27.5x11
    Overhead Extensions (cable with v-shaped bar): 160x11
    seated calf raise machine: 115x23
    Side Laterals (Dumbbell): 20x10
    Reverse Flyes: 17.5x12


    ready for the next dose. I think I can feel the 4andro a little bit because my mood is better. could also be a placebo effect though who knows.

    any advise on protein intake on cycle? is at leas1g per pound sufficient or should I increase it?

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    Day 3: all good. my diet was on point and I drank a crazy amount of water. definitely more thirsty than usual. still in my deload week. workout was day A again the weights were the same. still looking bloated from my cheatday. it usually takes me a week to get back down to normal. too bad I can't eat all day without getting fat -_-

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    Quote Originally Posted by fobz View Post
    Day 3: all good. my diet was on point and I drank a crazy amount of water. definitely more thirsty than usual. still in my deload week. workout was day A again the weights were the same. still looking bloated from my cheatday. it usually takes me a week to get back down to normal. too bad I can't eat all day without getting fat -_-
    I had to give in this past year and start running a diuretic (Razor Cuts) after my cheat days...getting old sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    I had to give in this past year and start running a diuretic (Razor Cuts) after my cheat days...getting old sucks.
    that's a good idea thanks ebfitness. for how long and at what dose do you usually run Razor Cuts after a cheat day?

    I am planning to not have a cheat day for the whole cycle. at first I was like well no cheat day while on halo but then I remembered that the body is very prone to put on fat during pct so I decided to try to not have a cheat day for the whole 10 weeks. we'll see how that goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fobz View Post
    that's a good idea thanks ebfitness. for how long and at what dose do you usually run Razor Cuts after a cheat day?

    I am planning to not have a cheat day for the whole cycle. at first I was like well no cheat day while on halo but then I remembered that the body is very prone to put on fat during pct so I decided to try to not have a cheat day for the whole 10 weeks. we'll see how that goes.
    I'll usually take 1 cap after dinner, another the next morning, and if I'm still bloated that afternoon, 1 more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    I'll usually take 1 cap after dinner, another the next morning, and if I'm still bloated that afternoon, 1 more.
    awesome thanks for the advice brother.

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    Day 5: everything is still fine no changes yet. mood is good. I'm always hungry but diet was on point. bloat is starting to fade. 4th deload workout yesterday was fine same as the first day B. just 2 more deload workouts and then the fun begins. I can't wait =)

    so I saw that epi-andro is great for cutting/recomping. would it make sense to add it to this cycle or is that too much for a first run? should I just stick to the halo and 4andro for this run?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fobz View Post
    Day 5: everything is still fine no changes yet. mood is good. I'm always hungry but diet was on point. bloat is starting to fade. 4th deload workout yesterday was fine same as the first day B. just 2 more deload workouts and then the fun begins. I can't wait =)

    so I saw that epi-andro is great for cutting/recomping. would it make sense to add it to this cycle or is that too much for a first run? should I just stick to the halo and 4andro for this run?
    I think the Epi-Andro would be a great addition! It has a really good hardening effect. I run it at 4 caps daily in two split doses.
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    cool =)
    so would you run it for 4 weeks at 4 caps ed?

    is 3 caps halo, 3 caps 4andro and 4caps epi-andro each day to much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fobz View Post
    cool =)
    so would you run it for 4 weeks at 4 caps ed?

    is 3 caps halo, 3 caps 4andro and 4caps epi-andro each day to much?
    That looks good to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ebfitness View Post
    That looks good to me!
    perfect thanks for the help eb! I'm gonna order some right now. super excited =)

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    Day 6: all still good. diet was on point again (even though I'm hungry like crazy) and the deload workout was day A again with the same weights. mood is still good and no sides.

    today is my last deload workout so I'm excited to get back at the real workouts on monday. I also ordered some epi-andro yesterday that I will throw into this cycle for the last 4 weeks together with halo and 4andro.

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    day 7: all good no changes as of yet. diet was on point and I'm still hungry. yesterday was the last deload workout and it went well. excited for my first full workout tomorrow.

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    day 8: diet was on point. I don't feel any different yet. yesterday was my rest day so nothing interesting to report there.

    today is going to be my first full workout I'm excited about that. will report back later tonight after teh workout.

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    workout tonight was great. I was a little more focused than usual and usually after a deload week my endurance sucks but today I just picked up where I left of.

    did the first set(usually between 8 and 12 reps) and 30 rest/pause reps for each exercise with the following weights:

    A:
    Leg Press: 795x13
    Weighted Chin-up: BW+25x10
    Weighted Push-Ups: BW+45x12
    Wide Grip Cable Rows: 130x10
    Seated Leg Curls: 115x13
    Concentration Curls: 27.5x11
    Triceps Pushdown(rope attachment): 75x12
    standing calf raises(squat machine): 250x20
    cable upright row: 105x12

    cable chest flyes: 30x15 (still going easy on them because of my shoulder)

    as soon as I started lifting I was really motivated and the muscle/mind connection was great.

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