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1-Andro proven highly effective in recent study

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1-DHEA – Powerful According to Researchers

1-DHEA is a prohormone to 1-Testosterone (dihydroboldenone). It is commonly sold under the brand name of “1-Andro” (1-Androsterone). 1-Andro is a non 17-aa prohormone requiring two steps in its conversion to 1-Test. Reduction of the 17-ketone functional group by 17b-HSD produces 1-Androstenediol while oxidation of the 3-hydroxyl group by 3a-HSD produces 1-Androstenedione. Both of these metabolites may have some intrinsic anabolic/androgenic properties, but it is their further conversion to 1-Testosterone that produces the anabolic muscle building effects seen from 1-Andro.

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1-Andro appears weak structurally. It requires two enzymatic conversions to become the target hormone 1-Testosterone. Throw in the fact that it is technically a “DHEA” molecule, and most would believe it to be weak prohormone. However, a new study performed by West Texas A&M University shows otherwise.

9 males with an average of 5 years experience in resistance training and an average bodyfat of 13% were given 330 mg of 1-Andro daily for 4 weeks while completing a structured resistance training program. Data was collected pre-cycle and post-cycle on: lean mass, strength, lipids, and cardiac metabolic function. Studies like these are the holy grail of prohormone studies. They are very rare. When a study like this is performed on a prohormone, it is wise to take notice. These studies give better answers to the overly common questions of what kind of gains one can expect, what dose is best, and the degree of toxicity that comes from the prohormone.

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Results showed 1-Andro to be significantly more powerful than it would appear structurally. The 9 males gained an average lean mass of 10.4 lbs and an increase in strength of 92.2 lbs in total load on bench/squat/deadlift. These are significant gains from a prohormone. It is important to keep in mind that these results were seen from 330 mg of pure 1-Andro taken daily. The recommended dosages on the internet vary from 100-800 mg per day; obviously 800 mg being excessive in retrospect to this study. It was interesting to note that cardiac metabolic function was negatively affected as evident by the increase in creatinine and aspartate transaminase (AST). Lipids were also negatively effected; an increase in LDL and decrease in HDL were observed.

The researchers concluded that “The prohormone supplement contributed to robust improvements in muscle mass and strength in resistance trained males but these gains came at the price of subject’s cardio-metabolic function.” These negative side effects are most likely caused by 1-Andro’s conversion to the potent steroid 1-Testosterone and not caused by 1-Andro itself. Of course, the elevated enzymes and negatively impacted lipids were expected to return to baseline some weeks after the cycle. Although repeated studies are necessary to substantiate the efficacy of any compound, it’s safe to say that 1-Andro definitely packs a punch!

Grandos J, Gillum T, Hodges C, Kuennen M. 3-hydroxy-5alpha-androst-1-en-17-one Enhances Muscular Gains but Impairs the Cardio-metabolic Health of Resistance Trained Males. International Journal of Exercise Science.
 

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1-Andro has become one of my favorites. It's not a mass monster, but I can always get a few lbs out of it even staying at maintenance cals. It's completely stackable (I love it stacked with Osta). And it's not methylated. I always run it at 4 caps daily whether used in a stack or stand alone.
 
Agreed. This study is why I've always used 1-andro over 4-andro in my cycles.

You get the muscle, but without the bloat, so it's even safe in a pre contest stack.

I like to run it around 400mg, along with whatever product I'm taking, no matter the goal.
 
1-Andro has become one of my favorites. It's not a mass monster, but I can always get a few lbs out of it even staying at maintenance cals. It's completely stackable (I love it stacked with Osta). And it's not methylated. I always run it at 4 caps daily whether used in a stack or stand alone.
Would you recommend it stacking over it 4 andro? I was thinking about doing it with the original methadrol
 
Would you recommend it stacking over it 4 andro? I was thinking about doing it with the original methadrol
I do prefer 1-Andro over 4-Andro simply because I can see it more (it is stronger and drier than 4-Andro). And I'm prone to holding water so I'd definitely like it stacked with the old MDE.
 
Would I get benefit if I take 1 cap twice per day daily for 8 weeks?
 
Would I get benefit if I take 1 cap twice per day daily for 8 weeks?
Eh...a couple years ago I ran it at 2 caps but eventually bumped it to 3 and that's when I noticed more results. But when I cycled it again at 4 caps daily there was a much more noticeable difference.
 
4 caps daily is the sweet spot on 1-andro IMHO
The bottle says it's 50mg of "1-Androstenediol 3b-ol, 17-one" per cap, so when you say 4 caps daily do you mean 200mg daily? The reason I'm asking this is because I read somewhere that IML's 1-Andro used to contain 100mg a cap.
 
I took the andro mass stack a while back and ran 1-andro at 4 caps a day to match 4-caps of 4-andro. I absolutely loved it. The gains were noticeable and I actually kept getting bigger and stronger well into my PCT.

Do you recommend running it instead of 4-andro or with it like I did?
 
I took the andro mass stack a while back and ran 1-andro at 4 caps a day to match 4-caps of 4-andro. I absolutely loved it. The gains were noticeable and I actually kept getting bigger and stronger well into my PCT.

Do you recommend running it instead of 4-andro or with it like I did?
Nothing wrong with stacking 1 and 4-Andro...but since you've already done that, how about stacking 1 and Epi-Andro? Or 1- Andro and Osta?
 
Could you possibly stack 1-andro, 4-andro and osta for more of a non methylated stack?
 
I've taken the super dmz 3.0 stack in the past with 4 andro. Would replacing the 4 andro with the 1 andro give different (better) results? Anyone try this? Thanks
 
I've taken the super dmz 3.0 stack in the past with 4 andro. Would replacing the 4 andro with the 1 andro give different (better) results? Anyone try this? Thanks
Eh, some people get lethargic on 1-Andro, so better off sticking to 4 or Epi-Andro with SDMZ.
 
Great to know! What kind of results would you expect from taking 1-andro 4-andro and osta?
 
Great to know! What kind of results would you expect from taking 1-andro 4-andro and osta?
Muscle fullness, vascularity, strength, fat loss, "Alpha" feeling. Granted, it wouldn't be a mass monster stack like with a methyl, but eat and lift towards your goal and you'll be pleasantly surprised.
 
Understandable! Not so much size as a methylated? What would you run with those three for a successful cycle? still the same stuff like cycle support e-control etc..
 
Understandable! Not so much size as a methylated? What would you run with those three for a successful cycle? still the same stuff like cycle support e-control etc..
I run ACS at 2 caps daily year round. Otherwise, you'd want your standard PCT (Ultra Male or SERM, E-Control).
 
1-Andro has become one of my favorites. It's not a mass monster, but I can always get a few lbs out of it even staying at maintenance cals. It's completely stackable (I love it stacked with Osta). And it's not methylated. I always run it at 4 caps daily whether used in a stack or stand alone.

What would be the best dose for Osta while stacking it with 1-Andro @ 4 a day?

Thanx
 
Maybe I should have gotten 1-andro to stack with M-sten instead of 4-andro o_O
It's cheaper too!
 
But didn't the study in Adrenolin's post of 1-andro say that it causes liver problems?or is that with a higher dose only.

I'm also curious about 1-andro and 4-andro impact on the liver. I've taken a few cycles of M-Sten and DMZ3 and about a month after my most recent cycle (taking supports while on cycle), I had some tests run, and my liver tests (which previously had always tested in the 'normal' range) were now 5 times above the number considered to be 'normal'. I figured "OK, need to stay off that for awhile (if not for good)."

In revisiting what I might be able to take that wouldn't be liver toxic, I've been thinking about 1-andro and/or 4-andro. Oddly, I noticed that 4-andro notes its non-methylated, but at the bottom of the info on 4-andro AND 1-andro in the warning sections it says, "Do no use if pregnant or nursing, or if you are at risk of, or being treated for diabetes, liver problems or high blood pressure."Do no use if pregnant or nursing, or if you are at risk of, or being treated for diabetes, liver problems or high blood pressure."

Whats the story here? Should I be avoiding 1-andro and 4-andro if I had an above normal liver test? The messages seem to contradict each other. Or is that just a 'standard' warning label at the bottom of all prohormones and the liver info doesn't really apply to these? Thanks.



 
I'm also curious about 1-andro and 4-andro impact on the liver. I've taken a few cycles of M-Sten and DMZ3 and about a month after my most recent cycle (taking supports while on cycle), I had some tests run, and my liver tests (which previously had always tested in the 'normal' range) were now 5 times above the number considered to be 'normal'. I figured "OK, need to stay off that for awhile (if not for good)."

In revisiting what I might be able to take that wouldn't be liver toxic, I've been thinking about 1-andro and/or 4-andro. Oddly, I noticed that 4-andro notes its non-methylated, but at the bottom of the info on 4-andro AND 1-andro in the warning sections it says, "Do no use if pregnant or nursing, or if you are at risk of, or being treated for diabetes, liver problems or high blood pressure."Do no use if pregnant or nursing, or if you are at risk of, or being treated for diabetes, liver problems or high blood pressure."

Whats the story here? Should I be avoiding 1-andro and 4-andro if I had an above normal liver test? The messages seem to contradict each other. Or is that just a 'standard' warning label at the bottom of all prohormones and the liver info doesn't really apply to these? Thanks.



Standard warning.
 
1-andro is great stuff. I regret not dosing higher and running longer. The last 2 weeks of my run was where the results started kicking in. I'm moving onto bigger and stronger products, was great to get my feet wet. No sides.
 
1-andro is great stuff. I regret not dosing higher and running longer. The last 2 weeks of my run was where the results started kicking in. I'm moving onto bigger and stronger products, was great to get my feet wet. No sides.
Nice!
 
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