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When can I start another 4 weeks of DMZ??

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Need advice when I can start another cycle of DMZ 3.0. Just finished up my 4 weeks of PCT. I want to do another round of DMZ or if someone can chime in would the 6 weeks of HALO be better. Out of 11 pounds gained I retained about 6 +. Im 6'2" at 241 now.
 
You'll want to atleast take however long you were on cycle + PCT time off. So if you were on DMZ 4 weeks then 4 week PCT, take 8 weeks off. You should be getting blood work done though to truly tell if your levels are back to where they need to be before beginning.
 
Ok. So in the mean time what should I take to keep up the gains and the pump?
 
That's really up to you. You could bridge with a SARM like Osta (however it is still mildy suppressive), but I would just keep your diet in check and keep your training intensity up until your next cycle. You could always use creatine to help with gains if not taking already and a preworkout for pumps ... again assuming you may already be taking.
 
I was taking creatine while on DMZ also. It was the BEAST creatine. Two scoops per day. (Good Creatine?) What is SARM Osta? Would like to keep on gaining.
 
I was taking creatine while on DMZ also. It was the BEAST creatine. Two scoops per day. (Good Creatine?) What is SARM Osta? Would like to keep on gaining.


Osta is an IML Product do some research on it in threads and on its product page ... here is some more info from the expert Mike Arnold on running it after a cycle...

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Originally Posted by BiggieSmallz
Hai Mike,

what are your thoughts on running an oral cycle, followed by PCT, then immediately jumping on Osta after PCT with the intent of running another oral cycle 8 weeks later after the osta run... in other words "bridging" with an xtra PCT installed;

http://www.ironmaglabs.com/forums/sh...quick-question

What kind of impact (if any) would that have on long-term recovery of baseline T? Also what's your personal and/or professional stance on the use of Ostarine, since it's mildly suppressive... seems counter-productive to me in PCT or even shortly thereafter if the object is total recovery, but I've never actually seen bloodwork confirming to what degree of impact (if any) that mild suppression has under SERM-administered PCT (when ran together).

Thanks Mike
You shoud just view Osta as a "cycle", especially when running 2-3 caps/day. Obviously, there is no liver stress with Osta and very few side effects, so there is little to worry about with its use, but since it is still suppressive at the dosages used by BB'rs, you should consider it a "cycle".

Therefore, whether you are running Osta and then immdiately transitioning into steroids...or the other way around, it is just one extended cycle. Whether you are running an 8 week, 12 week, or 16 week cycle--I don't think it really matters. All are cycles...and all can potentially reduce T levels down to just about nothing, depending on what and how much is being used.

We can't really say how long a cycle can be...or how many cycles one can run, before it will permanently negatuvely affect natural T levels. Most guys, after running several cycles, will experience at least some degree of long-term supression, which can range from very minor to significant. People are different. If someone has T level of only 350 before they run their 1st cycle, they may push their natural prpoduction into a deficient range after just a couple cycles, since they started out so close to being test deficient. On the other hand, someone who has a T level of 1,200 before starting (it happens) is likely going to be able to maintain a normal T level even after many years of cycling...because even if his natural T production drops, he is more likely to end up in a decent range.

We also need to consider the fact that some people simply recover easier than others. Obviously, this will make a difference in the long-run. I knew one guy who used steroids ON & OFF for over 10 years in the 80's (a doctor)...never used PCT a day in his life...and even at 55 years old, over 20 years after running his last cycle, his T level is over 1,000. Not bad for a 55 year old guy who used steroid for 10+ years! I have also seen guys who ran only a couple cycle and required life-long TRT. These are the guys who had a low natural T level to begin with and had a hard time recovering--the worst possible combination.

So, I can't give you a single answer, as everyone will respond differently even when doing the exact same thing. I don't think anyone who runs steroids for several yeas, even when using PCT, is going to escape unblemished. Even in the best case scenarios, at least some degree of long-term suppression is ging to take place.
 
Those " (blank)" spaces should read the word "Osta" not sure why it copied weird
 
No problem. So its better to steer away from osta and stick with creatine and a pre work out instead of jumping back into it.? Thanks for the great advice. Your thought's on Osta vs DMZ>
 
You'll want to atleast take however long you were on cycle + PCT time off. So if you were on DMZ 4 weeks then 4 week PCT, take 8 weeks off. You should be getting blood work done though to truly tell if your levels are back to where they need to be before beginning.
^^^This.

And if you're trying to maintain gains or continue to grow, then you'll need to keep cals high. Things like whole eggs, beef, avocados, nuts, olive oil are perfect for this; and the natural fats in them will continue to help your testosterone recover post cycle.
 
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