last cycle of dmz 3.0

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I just bought one last bottle of super dmz 3.0. I have just a few questions.
First I was wondering the last cycle I used my sex drive was non existent by the end. I started using a PCT and it has come back for the most part. Is there something I can use to help keep it alive while taking dmz?
Second I was wondering I have heard rumors about a 4.0. Will this product be more effective than the 3.0 or will it not have the same capibility of the 3.0?
Third and lastly I was wondering what one product, other than one for sex drive, can I stack with dmz to help reach and maintain gains after using it? Money is a tad tight right now and that's why I'm asking. I've lost a lot of size since coming off it and I tried keeping calorie intake up and still continuing to hit the weights as I had been before.

I know there is no magic to keeping gains I am just looking to do what I can to keep size after coming off dmz.
thank you for taking the time to read this.
 
Some of the size loss might be from intramuscular water. Also if you are past your genetic muscle limit when running on cycle your body may want to bring itself back down to its limit. This is why many pro's have to be constantly on something to retain their huge physiques.
 
after my cycle of super dmz my sex drive crashed hard too. its been a while and i can honestly say it has not gone back to normal. i guess the risk you take. i know clomid is supposed to help bring test levels back faster than nolva, which is what i used. 4-andro is supposed to help keep libido up during cycle, but i didnt feel like it did much.
its pretty hard to keep all the gains, regardless of what you do. i think a big factor is mental, when you get off you assume you will get smalled and lose strength so you dont push it as hard. my last cycle i just keep going hard like i was on it and keep most of my strength.
 
For improved mood, energy and libido add 4-andro. 2-4 caps daily. Some users will need a higher dose of 4-andro so adjust as needed.
 
channah06 said:
after my cycle of super dmz my sex drive crashed hard too. its been a while and i can honestly say it has not gone back to normal. i guess the risk you take. i know clomid is supposed to help bring test levels back faster than nolva, which is what i used. 4-andro is supposed to help keep libido up during cycle, but i didnt feel like it did much.
its pretty hard to keep all the gains, regardless of what you do. i think a big factor is mental, when you get off you assume you will get smalled and lose strength so you dont push it as hard. my last cycle i just keep going hard like i was on it and keep most of my strength.
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How much Clomid did you take?

Personally I respond best (lab test. level + overall feeling) to:

150 week 1
100 week 2
100 week 3
50 week 4

Just began my PCT last night with this scheduling, might be a bit much for some but works best for me.

YMMV
 
Lat do you always prefer clomid over nolva?

And about that 4.0 ;) I saw heavy post something about some new productd lol. Was that just by accident or are you just teasing us? Haha
 
Howarth17 said:
Lat do you always prefer clomid over nolva?

And about that 4.0 ;) I saw heavy post something about some new productd lol. Was that just by accident or are you just teasing us? Haha
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Hi, how's things?

yea Clomid>Nolva.

Seem to respond better to it as per my labs.

Also years ago M.D.had me on it for low test.

150mg first week shot my test up very fast in just a week and my overall feeling improved fast.
 
LatRaze said:
How much Clomid did you take?

Personally I respond best (lab test. level + overall feeling) to:

150 week 1
100 week 2
100 week 3
50 week 4

Just began my PCT last night with this scheduling, might be a bit much for some but works best for me.

YMMV
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sorry i worded it worng, i've only used nolva, but with the issues i had bouncing back last cycle clomid was recomended. i'll be using clomid for my next cycle coming up in a few weeks. i ll have to try out your dosing, although ive heard people just keeping it 50mgX4 weeks
 
channah06 said:
sorry i worded it worng, i've only used nolva, but with the issues i had bouncing back last cycle clomid was recomended. i'll be using clomid for my next cycle coming up in a few weeks. i ll have to try out your dosing, although ive heard people just keeping it 50mgX4 weeks
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Mine is high; definitely not the norm but for me it works out well. I don't even need a full month on it at that dosing.

Beware of possible sides with high doses as well especially if unfamiliar with Clomid at such a higher dose.

I've only experienced slight panic attacks but that was when I first took it. After that I take it at night and just sleep.

Again all have different responses to drugs so I'd start lower and titrate upwards based on the effects.
 
Hey lat are you on TRT?

Good. Eating a keto diet with the gf now because she has portion issues and couldn't understand why she wasn't losing weight eating clean. Probably gonna wait until after summer to try and bulk up some more. Either m sten or dmz
 
Howarth17 said:
Hey lat are you on TRT?

Good. Eating a keto diet with the gf now because she has portion issues and couldn't understand why she wasn't losing weight eating clean. Probably gonna wait until after summer to try and bulk up some more. Either m sten or dmz
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No not on TRT.

While back I took a cycle without proper education on PCT so test was low after and didn't want TRT so M.D. gave Clomid RX instead which they often use in men with low test from secondary hypogonadism with way less sides and way cheaper.

I see a new SDMZ 4 is in the works. Will try this summer.

I need a break though.

3 cycles in a row (proper time off) takes it toll on me. Not lab values and such but I find myself lifting heavier, longer with less rest when on and body parts are tired post cycle. Lol.

IF could have that cycle high and speedy recovery 24/7 that would be sweet
 
Howarth17 said:
Lat do you always prefer clomid over nolva?

And about that 4.0 ;) I saw heavy post something about some new productd lol. Was that just by accident or are you just teasing us? Haha
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4.0 is coming..
 
Keep your calories up and keep training just as hard as when you were on. You might need to take an extra days rest because you are not able to recover the same as when you where on cycle. Also get yourself some BCAA and Leucine and pound those between meals. Give your body everything it needs to retain that muscle by lifting hard (telling the body you still need that muscle) and calories and aminos (plenty of food for the muscles). Good luck amigo
 
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