My first Pro Hormone cycle, need advice!

Daweism · Nov 19, 2011

Hello gents, I'm currently deployed in Iraq but I'll be home in 3 weeks and I definitely want to start a Pro Hormone cycle. After some research I've gathered that Halo Extreme is good for beginners of Pro Hormones, but I am also interested in Super-DMZ. I'm 6'1" about 215-220 pounds around 14-15% body fat, I can easily bulk to about the 235-240 range just because I used to be fatter and my body is used to being naturally heavier than the weight I'm at now. Which PH would you experienced sirs recommend? And also would I need to buy a SERM and HCG in addition to the complete PCT stack that IronMagLabs offers?

FIRST 4 WEEKS:
Halo Extreme or Super-DMZ - 2 caps daily (1 cap taken two times daily)
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

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LAST 4 WEEKS:
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

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SERM (Nolvadex or Clomid?)
HCG product?

And also should I buy an extra bottle of the PH say for example on Halo so that I can up the dosage to about 75-100mg a day since?

chip · Nov 19, 2011

Either one is a good choice. You don't need a serm if running full stack as provided. First time I would probably go with the halo extreme at 3 caps, a.m., afternoon, p.m. strict diet and strong workouts and you wont be disappointed.

The Neck · Nov 21, 2011

chip said:
Either one is a good choice. You don't need a serm if running full stack as provided. First time I would probably go with the halo extreme at 3 caps, a.m., afternoon, p.m. strict diet and strong workouts and you wont be disappointed.

This ^^^^

Daweism · Nov 21, 2011

Slight problem however.

Well I'm in the Army, and we have to do about a hour of cardio stuff every morning like runs, sprints, insanity, crossfit, ruck marches. And I plan on lifting in the afternoon / early evening, would all that work in the morning be hurtful or beneficial?

The Neck · Nov 21, 2011

Daweism 06 said:
Slight problem however.

Well I'm in the Army, and we have to do about a hour of cardio stuff every morning like runs, sprints, insanity, crossfit, ruck marches. And I plan on lifting in the afternoon / early evening, would all that work in the morning be hurtful or beneficial?

Will be fine.

Daweism · Nov 21, 2011

So just to reiterate, with the full stack of Halo Extreme, everyone agrees that a SERM will not be necessary? Or should I be taking Clomid and Novaldex during PCT just to be safe?

And for the Halo dosage I was thinking about 2 pills the first week and 3 pills the next 3-5 weeks, is a 6 week cycle relatively safe for a first timer?

heavyiron · Nov 21, 2011

Ultra Male RX provides a nice spike in lutenizing hormone which raises T. I would recommend the Ultra Male RX for post cycle therapy in the place of a SERM.

3 caps of Halo daily for 4-6 weeks is ideal for most users.

Daweism · Nov 22, 2011

Alright, so if I do a week cycle, and 4 week PCT, I plan to be on the Ultra MaleRX throughout the whole 10 weeks, should I keep taking after the 10 weeks, or should I cut off the Ultra MaleRX once the 4 week PCT is complete?

The Neck · Nov 22, 2011

Daweism said:
Alright, so if I do a week cycle, and 4 week PCT, I plan to be on the Ultra MaleRX throughout the whole 10 weeks, should I keep taking after the 10 weeks, or should I cut off the Ultra MaleRX once the 4 week PCT is complete?

I would do atleast 4wk cycle of the Halo. A week only wouldn't do much.. Stop the Ultra Male at the end of your PCT.

heavyiron · Nov 22, 2011

Daweism said:
Alright, so if I do a week cycle, and 4 week PCT, I plan to be on the Ultra MaleRX throughout the whole 10 weeks, should I keep taking after the 10 weeks, or should I cut off the Ultra MaleRX once the 4 week PCT is complete?

I personally like to see Ultra Male used the day after your last halo cap and run for 4 weeks. I think of Ultra Male as Post Cycle Therapy or a stand alone pro sexual enhancer.

weeks 1-6 Halo extreme 2-4 caps daily
weeks 1-8 Advanced cycle support (organ and lipid support)
weeks 7-10 Ultra male rx (pct)

Daweism · Nov 22, 2011

The Neck said:
Daweism said:

Alright, so if I do a week cycle, and 4 week PCT, I plan to be on the Ultra MaleRX throughout the whole 10 weeks, should I keep taking after the 10 weeks, or should I cut off the Ultra MaleRX once the 4 week PCT is complete?

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I would do atleast 4wk cycle of the Halo. A week only wouldn't do much.. Stop the Ultra Male at the end of your PCT.

I meant 6 weeks of Halo, my bad.

DWeaver · Nov 22, 2011

You can do what you want but I don't agree with not taking a serm. I ran 2 cycles with out a serm, used OTC PCT and on my third and forth cycles when i ran a serm I kept a lot more of my gains and my boys came back quicker. JMO

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heavyiron · Nov 22, 2011

DWeaver 00 said:
You can do what you want but I don't agree with not taking a serm. I ran 2 cycles with out a serm, used OTC PCT and on my third and forth cycles when i ran a serm I kept a lot more of my gains and my boys came back quicker. JMO

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Yes, SERM's are very good but keep in mind some OTC's are absolutely proven to increase the LH signal therefore boosting natty T. Ultra Male RX is such a proven product but I have no problem if a guy wants to use a SERM like Nolvadex or Clomid for PCT.

The Neck · Nov 23, 2011

Daweism 07 said:
The Neck said:

Daweism said:

Alright, so if I do a week cycle, and 4 week PCT, I plan to be on the Ultra MaleRX throughout the whole 10 weeks, should I keep taking after the 10 weeks, or should I cut off the Ultra MaleRX once the 4 week PCT is complete?

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I would do atleast 4wk cycle of the Halo. A week only wouldn't do much.. Stop the Ultra Male at the end of your PCT.

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I meant 6 weeks of Halo, my bad.

LOL, I should of figured that much just wanted to make sure.

Daweism · Nov 25, 2011

FUCKUH DA NO!

I've come to conclude I will do the Super DMZ cycle instead. Out of Iraq and back home in 18 days!

heavyiron · Nov 25, 2011

Daweism said:
FUCKUH DA NO!

I've come to conclude I will do the Super DMZ cycle instead. Out of Iraq and back home in 18 days!

Super DMZ is my favorite. F'ing strong and I had no problems.

Daweism · Nov 30, 2011

Would a few drinks one night a week be ok? I'll be coming back from iraq and everyone wants to party..

heavyiron · Nov 30, 2011

Daweism said:
Would a few drinks one night a week be ok? I'll be coming back from iraq and everyone wants to party..

Moderate drinking once a week is fine. Maybe 1-2 drinks but IML's does not recommend drinking on their PH's.

DWeaver · Nov 30, 2011

No drinking IMO, welcome home!

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The Neck · Dec 1, 2011

heavyiron said:
Daweism said:

Would a few drinks one night a week be ok? I'll be coming back from iraq and everyone wants to party..

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Moderate drinking once a week is fine. Maybe 1-2 drinks but IML's does not recommend drinking on their PH's.

This, just try and keep it to a minimum.