Some thoughts on cycles

the_animal · Sep 9, 2012

So I been doing a lot of reading and I want to run cyno\osta\and halo. If not halo then possibly tren. Aside from the PHs and ACS and UM. What else should I run with it. Btw this will be my 6th. Cycle. I'm also curious in running test with Osta. After about 3 more PH cycles I wanna move to the next step up.

mastershake · Sep 9, 2012

after 6 cycles i would have to agree, either grab a metha drol from a place that still has it or go sdmz both are VERY potent and with the few guys i know right now one on methadrol and the other 2 on sdmz both are super potent and you will be very happy, the sdmz will be a more dry gain and metha drol will be more of a bulker not that sdmz will not add the lbs... as a matter of fact grab a few sdmz they will be gone soon..

GospelWarrior · Sep 9, 2012

I loved my original DMZ cycle. Same results as Tren and I felt the sides were less harsh. I'm about to start a Halo/Cyano stack and I will be bridging with Osta.

the_animal · Sep 9, 2012

I. Have done dmz twice. First was the original. Now I'm on 2.0

heavyiron · Sep 9, 2012

the_animal said:
So I been doing a lot of reading and I want to run cyno\osta\and halo. If not halo then possibly tren. Aside from the PHs and ACS and UM. What else should I run with it. Btw this will be my 6th. Cycle. I'm also curious in running test with Osta. After about 3 more PH cycles I wanna move to the next step up.

Looks like a solid stack for an advanced user. SARM's and Designers are a synergistic stack that will provide great gains. ACS and proper hydration is a must.

Some guys like Anabolic Matrix on cycle to keep sex drive high. I would prefer Testosterone myself though.

the_animal · Sep 9, 2012

so i could run Test E during this cycle?

heavyiron · Sep 9, 2012

the_animal said:
so i could run Test E during this cycle?

I think Testosterone is ideal with orals.

The Neck · Sep 10, 2012

the_animal said:
so i could run Test E during this cycle?

Like mentioned, completely ideal.

the_animal · Sep 10, 2012

how would i dose all of that heavy?

heavyiron · Sep 10, 2012

the_animal said:
how would i dose all of that heavy?

What specifically do you want to use?

the_animal · Sep 10, 2012

cyno/osta/test

if can get some dmz 2.0 then ill wanna that with osta and test

chrisotpherm · Sep 10, 2012

I would use the above stack with test at the beginning if you want a kick start or the final push at the end of your cycle to push pass a plateau. Would run your test two weeks past the PH stack at the end imo if your were to use at the end.

heavyiron · Sep 10, 2012

the_animal said:
cyno/osta/test

if can get some dmz 2.0 then ill wanna that with osta and test

Cyano~2 caps daily
Osta~3 caps daily

Test~whatever you feel comfortable with. 750mg weekly is what I would run.

the_animal · Sep 10, 2012

dayum. 750mg??? thats alot. so i could do that every monday?

mastershake · Sep 10, 2012

BiggieSmallz said:
speaking of the SDMZ 2.0, anyone know why blackstone labs site is down?

according to whois they are with godaddy and godaddy has been under attack all day see here:

http://rt.com/usa/news/godaddycom-reportedly-hacked-anonymous-826/

mastershake · Sep 10, 2012

heavyiron said:
Cyano~2 caps daily
Osta~3 caps daily

Test~whatever you feel comfortable with. 750mg weekly is what I would run.

sounds like a awesome stack. and i agree test rocks...

chrisotpherm · Sep 11, 2012

If you are going to run Test for the first time would start off in the range of 4-500 a week split up into two shots. Monday and Thrusday would be an example!

muscle69 · Sep 11, 2012

I know you guys are way out of my league but I'm wondering if I need to reevaluate my thoughts on Test. I started working on upping my test levels this spring from low to a more normal or nominal level. At the time of my last labs, using 25mg clomid/day and 100mg of Test Cypionate divided into 2 doses/week, my levels were in the 530's. I figured I'd like to get to above 700 at some point. HeavyIron is talking about 750mg of Test E/week and Christopher going with 4-500mg/week for newer users... and I'm using 100mg/week(plus the clomid).. LOL Any idea of the test levels lab work would show at 4-500mg/wk or higher? Think I should have already tried to double or triple my current intake?

chrisotpherm · Sep 11, 2012

It's hard to say what your test levels will be at any dose you use as everyone is different. Your use of 100mg a week giving you a 530 range is pretty good at such a small dose. With that being said at a higher dosage than current will yield a higher test range. Blood work is key.

heavyiron · Sep 11, 2012

the_animal said:
dayum. 750mg??? thats alot. so i could do that every monday?

That's up to you. IML's does not recommend anyone use medications unless approved by a doctor.

heavyiron · Sep 11, 2012

muscle69 said:
I know you guys are way out of my league but I'm wondering if I need to reevaluate my thoughts on Test. I started working on upping my test levels this spring from low to a more normal or nominal level. At the time of my last labs, using 25mg clomid/day and 100mg of Test Cypionate divided into 2 doses/week, my levels were in the 530's. I figured I'd like to get to above 700 at some point. HeavyIron is talking about 750mg of Test E/week and Christopher going with 4-500mg/week for newer users... and I'm using 100mg/week(plus the clomid).. LOL Any idea of the test levels lab work would show at 4-500mg/wk or higher? Think I should have already tried to double or triple my current intake?

Total Testosterone 7 days after inject

300 mg group-1,345 ng/dl a 691 ng increase from baseline
600 mg group-2,370 ng/dl a 1,737 ng increase from baseline

http://ajpendo.physiology.org/content/281/6/E1172.full