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I had no fat loss or gains with it. I had ok results with the tren prohormone. During my workout better pumps and got tighter and leaner. Osta not great for me though

Should 3 caps be taken at once or divided through day

I just started mine yesterday at three a day with 4 epitren, 4 4andro, 4 1andro. Along side my trt dose of 200mg of testosterone dr. Prescribed and my girl told me I was more vascular today so day two no complaints.

Have you personally used this heavy? I use 4d now and it's awesome I see this has agmatine but doesn't say how much. How do you rate this product?

Advice taken ill start that tomorrow. How soon can I expect this stuff to take effect?

I'm going to start with lowest recommend doses and increase them as needed to get gains I'm looking for. Yes I have on cycle support I'm taking as well

1 andro /6 weeks 4 andro 6 weeks epitren/6 weeks osta/ 6 wweeks then a break from everything but osta for 6 weeks. then 1 andro6 weeks 4 andro 6 weeks epitren 6 weeks m sten 6 weeks then break for 6 weeks while using osta again. ill be running 200 mg of testosterone the entire time for trt

Yes but I'm looking to optimize my gains.

I'm on probation so I have a script for my testosterone. But I can only get so much of it so I can't take as much as I want.

I was hoping since I'm on such a low dose of testosterone that these products would increase my testosterone levels.

If you are on 200 mg per week of testosterone will either of these products benefit you? Also what is the difference between them as far as results?