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okay cool, I mean I guess it would make sense may thin the blood a little and shuttle the preworkout more ... I'll give it a try my next back and bi day

Day 3 - still nothin to really report ... Knocked out shoulders today but didn't feel too different than usual ... Guessing it's still early to be feeling anything yet ... After my 20 minute HIIT cardio I did get asked if I had oil on me because I was apparently sweating so much haha idk if that...

of course this leads to the obvious response of... How terrible for my body is this haha

Interested to see if you guys have any reccomendations as far as what to add to get that pre workout "tingly"/"energy"/whatever you want to call it feeling. I've been taking pres now for so long and have become so stim tolerant that I feel like I have to take way more than the reccomended dose...

Day 2 - good back/bi workout and started dosing am/pm instead of all upon waking ... Seems to be the more common way to do it. Other than that slight change nothing to report yet. Looking forward to the days to come.

That helps a lot mike! Thanks for the detailed response!

just checked it out ... That makes me even more excited haha

haha I totally have bought epi on 3 separate occasions now, started with 2 bottles and was gunna run 3 caps, then grabbed another and went to 4, then was persuaded to get ANOTHER and run 6 ... I would totally do 7 but that 3rd bottle isn't even here yet and I don't wanna order another lol ...

Day 1 killed chest/tri/calves and got in a 20 min HIIT cardio sesh. Nothin to report effect wise obviously since it's just getting in my system. Hope everyone had good workouts today.

First update: Should I just put in the request for my own personal urinal at my desk now or..... haha but seriously that or up my macros solely to account for calories burned walking to and from the bathroom 9500 times :D

Hey guys, Just started My Halo/Epi-andro cycle today. Im going to run 6 caps of Epi and 3 Caps Halo daily for 6 weeks followed by 4 weeks PCT with Nolva and then 3 weeks E-control after (starting last week of PCT) for a total of 12 weeks all together. Obviously taking ACS, joint support, fish...

Yeah I'm going with nolva as we'll.

Everyone has their own preference but either will suffice. There may be a slight advantage to running one or the other depending on the particular stack, but the important thing is that you just use one. Pick either.

You will 100% want a Serm (nolva or clomid) it's absolutely necessary and worth the money. Check moderators signatures in other posts to get discount codes for hardcore peptides. Nolva is 20mg prior to bed for 4 weeks. Check this link...

"Epi-andro I don't recommend as a 1st cycle simply because it is mostly a hardener and won't give much gains. Halodrol is OK, but again, it is pretty weak compared to the other products I mentioned. Same with Decadrol--poor gains compared to the others...same with 1-test. " Shoot, and I'm doing...

Too late to edit, but just saw you posted the question on the Mike Arnold Q & A sticky to get his opinion. Will follow that to see what he has to say.

Thanks for posting Biggie ... looking forward to educating myself on the answer.

So you're saying that if it were to be done, its actually better to run a cycle, no PCT, run 4 weeks Osta, followed by another cycle, then finally a PCT rather than rollercoasting and doing cycle, PCT, mildly suppressive Osta into another cycle, then PCT? I obviously do not know enough about it...

Thanks! Plan to start it Monday and will hopefully log it on here if I can. If for no other reason it'll help me keep my own progress haha

Okay cool. Sounds like it may be best to just run the cycle and PCT to see how it goes and what gains I get, then take 8 weeks completely off before hitting it again. Appreciate it man. I'll grab another bottle of Epi-Andro as well and run it at 4 caps.