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They use the term bodybuilder but don't specifically mention steroids. Here's the link to the studies: http://bayesianbodybuilding.com/the-myth-of-1glb-optimal-protein-intake-for-bodybuilders/

Gonna start some SDMZ in few weeks, battling sinus crap, urrgh. Research shows .82g/lbs as the minimums for mps (some research had this as low as .6g/lbs) however during cutting/deficit I always get at least 1g/lbs or little more.

Steep deficit but you won't be eating at this too low amount too long right? and your protein is high enough so should be ok.

Where are you at with calories ? How much below TDEE ?

^^ you are right, LOL, did not notice. Prob. figured out his diet by now :cool:

Protein is too high unless your prefer that much. No additional gains are acquired with protein above the minimums.

Yummy. Have some for me [emoji41]

In on your clen results, never did but interested [emoji14]

Yea. I hear you Howarth but no control over where the fat comes from Cutting= people say to me: "hey u dying"? Bulking= "Hey, you on roids, brah"? Lol

Yes Lyle M. has some good reads on bulking and partitioning. Lower bf responds better while bulking.

I've had those skinny cow ice cream sandwiches before and they are very tasty [emoji14]

Going well I see Howarth!

Howarth, should be tightening up in time after several bulks/cuts and one plus you're young [emoji12]

Can I place an order [emoji12] Very nice!

Depends on how long you have been cutting. Usually more beneficial when bf% has gotten lower and/or you are well into the cut awhile. Besides the metabolism adaption to cutting, there's also a benefit from getting leptin levels to rise; they lower when eating in caloric deficits.

Oh yes those too! [emoji41] They are killer.

Ok great, in addition you could add in weighted: Rope crunch (upper/lower abs) Lying bench leg raises (lower) Woodchoppers (obliques) These really changed my abs, I was doing the sit ups before. Just a thought! Do what works best and keep posting progress here[emoji12]

Good to hear no sides. What ab work are you doing? So I take it you're eating below TDEE?

How is cycle going so far :p

Compare those to the ones written by the regular members in the forum and see what you like. The workouts may be kinda similar but what I was getting at mostly is the Nutrition marketing part is a lot based on broscience not researched science.