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Welcome. Just wondering, did you run the SDMZ 3.0 @ 2 caps daily?

I think they are all a waste of cash. Save your $ for some IML products :p Best fat burner= eating in a caloric deficit.

Definitely. 240 lbs and can see your abs still. [emoji106]

Lmao. Agreed. Beastly.

I agree, he logged so detailed. I looked for this log daily, hate to see it end [emoji23]

You can be asymptomatic with out of range bloodwork. Be careful.

Really can't go much further than that because it's super strong. That said you have 4 weeks to really get your training, macros + calories on point to get the very best results you can during that time.

How do you know this? Did you get bloodwork and was it WNL?

Agree with heavyiron. Did my SDMZ 3.0 run in August. No need for anything else (ph wise) with that. 3 stacked methylated ph's are quite strong enough.

PZT, do you find your tendinitis worse on cycle or? Seems my elbow tendinitis is gone apparently now that I'm on.

Did not know that. Thank you for the clarification heavyiron.

You always have the best details in your log! :D

Was not aware of this IML product. Thanks for the post.

Then perhaps SDMZ 3.0 is not the product for you. There are others that you may respond/have responded to better. What works well in one person may not work well in another and vice versa. It's all trial and error like our training is. We are all unique.

Yea. I thought Epi Andro would work like 4 or 1 Andro. But lethargic is 10x worse than my solo SDMZ run.

Lol. That's how my wife describe me on/off. [emoji3]

EB I know I asked you about EA vs 4 Andro the other day but would 4 Andro be superior for mood etc over Epi Andro?

Ok, got it, thanks EB[emoji12]

This is my current cycle dosage/schedule except I'm using Epi Andro in place of 4-Andro. EB, any major differences in using EA (4caps) vs 4-Andro with Msten 20mg/daily?

Lol. Yes I saw that. They don't hold back!