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Thanks Christopherm I am going to try this and see what happens. Just ordered everything this morning from orbit, hoping to get it by the end of the week and start july off right. Ill log it and see how it goes. Thanks for the help guys.

What about running halo for 4 weeks and the cyno for another 4 and running a 6 week pct. I dont mind putting on some size, just not looking to gain 20 pound of water weight,.

Hey Guys, new to these forums but not new to the sport. I will start with my stats first since I already know that is a big part of asking for advice on any forum. Currently: 33 years old Male 12-12.5% BF 5'10" 191 lbs Been lifting since I was 15, but seriously lifting since I was 23. I use...