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I prefer Ultra Male for PCT but either will boost T levels. Keep in mind you only need 1 cap daily of Ultra Male. Check out this thread brother http://www.ironmaglabs.com/forums/showthread.php/461-ProLensis-(Bulbine-natalensis)?p=3467&viewfull=1#post3467

Halo Extreme and 4-andro is a killer stack. What are your doses brother?

Not sure what I was thinking when I wrote that brother. You are correct, no methylation.

Methylated orals cause some organ stress so you need to limit your exposure to that stress brother. I would take them with food or shortly after a meal myself. Stay well hydrated and train hard!

I would absolutely add the 4-andro as it will help maintain mood, energy and libido while you are shut down.

4 weeks is a pretty short duration brother. Even without PCT you are likely to recover eventually especially if you are younger.

You may be over training. Have you scheduled a week off from training recently?

Osta can slow recovery unless the dose is really low. I would use Osta for a bridge or for a cycle but not so much for PCT brother.

The only thing that might show on a physical would be negatively affected liver enzymes and lipids.

Not at this time but we have quite a few new PH's coming VERY soon brother.

6 weeks is the longest I would run that proposed stack but you could definitely stack those compounds brother. Nolva is great for PCT.

I have never felt lethargy on Osta but I wouldn't rule it out.

How long have you been on cycle brother? I would NOT run a cycle more than 6 weeks with those compounds.

Could be the Barbell is forcing you into an awkward range of motion that puts too much pressure on your wrists. Might see a doc and stop doing the exercises that tweak your wrists the most. I had to stop doing flat Barbell bench years ago because of the tweak it put on my shoulders.

I like it with 4-andro as the 4-ando provides a nice testosterone base for improved mood, energy and libido.

ULtra Male at 1 cap daily is what I would do brother. Inexpensive and will last 2 PCT's.

PCT4 is horrible for PCT as its suppressive. I would toss it in the trash and use a real PCT brother. Ultra Male is FAR superior. Also I would use IronMagLabs E-control Hope this helps!

We cannot advise on peptide use as it relates to human consumption, sorry.

YooHoo! KILLER deal!

I prefer high doses on the andros myself. 3-4 weeks to see the effects if diet and training are dialed in brother.