About to begin my Super DMZ 3.0 cycle

[Jkenosky88]

Hi guys, I'm about to begin my third ph cycle with super dmz 3.0. Just a quick question about my stack.

My cycle is as follows...

super dmz 3.0 - 1 am 1 pm
4 andro - 1 am 1 pm
Advanced cycle support - 1 am 1 pm

weeks 1-4

then for pct...

Ultra male - 1 am
e control - 1 am 1 pm


my question is if adding either nolva or clomid would be recommended for pct? Or if the ultra male and e control would be enough? I am gyno prone and want to be safe here. Also if taking either would be recommended, at what dose and at what point in the cycle would be best to take it?

thanks in advance !

 

[Adrenolin]

It's not good that you know nothing of SERMs and cycling protocol, with this being your third cycle. I'd you care for your health at all, I suggest you stay researching and reading a LOT!

Take your hormones all at once upon waking, both the sdmz and the 4 andro. Up the Advanced Cycle Support to 4 caps, and take it prior to bed. You should also take the ACS throughout PCT.

There's 3 strong anabolics in the sdmz alone, in addition your taking 4 andro as well. That is a stack of 4 hormones! A SERM is recommended for any hormonal cycle, even of just one compound, let alone 4! You most definitely, need a SERM, specifically tamoxifen, since you state you have gynecomastia sensitivity.

Here's how I would set up the PCT

WEEKS 5 - 8
Nolva
20mg (1mL) nightly, prior to bed.

ACS
3 caps nightly, prior to bed.

Ultra Male
1 cap nightly, prior to bed.

WEEKS 8 - 10
E-Control
3 caps nightly, prior to bed.

ACS
3 caps nightly, prior to bed.

Ultra Male
1 cap nightly, prior to bed.





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I'm here to help, brother. If you need any further help with anything in the future, don't hesitate to ask. PM's are Welcomed!

 

[Jkenosky88]

Thanks for the info, and the discount code


i just ordered the nolva. Would taking it throughout the cycle as well as pct be a bad idea/pointless? I'm just trying to be as safe as possible here. Also, you suggested taking the dmz and the andro all at once in the morning. Did you mean take the two dmz and the two andro all at once? Without spacing them apart?

 

[RoadstarPete]

There is no point in taking the Nolva while on cycle unless gyno symptoms occur. In which case you would dose it at 20mg daily until symptoms subside. You have it on hand so rest easy that you can treat it asap if you have issues.

Yes, Adrenolin did mean that you should take two dmz and 2 andro all at once.

 

[ZO6BMG]

Why are you guys telling him to take 2 DMZ at once? This fly's in the face of all IML's literature and the advice of many other manufacturers and those that say dividing the dose in the day helps keep blood levels stable. Please be clear on why you are telling him to do the opposite. I see a lot of people on this board that are very active like you guys giving conflicting advice with cycles.

 

[Adrenolin]

Why are you guys telling him to take 2 DMZ at once? This fly's in the face of all IML's literature and the advice of many other manufacturers and those that say dividing the dose in the day helps keep blood levels stable. Please be clear on why you are telling him to do the opposite. I see a lot of people on this board that are very active like you guys giving conflicting advice with cycles.

Who are you to be questioning everyone the way you are? I don't appreciate it the way you're wording it, it almost reads as an attack. Perhaps I'm wrong, if so I apologize.

I advise this, because if you know anything about half lives, you'd know you'll reach the same blood concentration level taking the doses all at once at the same time every day (blood levels will be stable, if you change the time of day you take your dose, your blood levels will become Unstable, and may lead to some sides) vs splitting it. There is ZERO significant difference in splitting it vs taking all at once, I've tried both ways multiple times. I prefer keeping things simple; I advocate the KISS method of cycling.. take all hormones upon waking, and all supports including pct supps prior to bed.

Supports need to be taken at least 3hrs separate of any methyl dosings, as it can inhibit the absorption of the methyl. this is easier done, by taking hormones upon waking and supports at night... not to mention it's just easier overall, especially when it's not going to make ANY difference in the effectiveness of your cycle.

Honestly there is NO 1 right way to run a cycle. Please inform me of the conflicting advice and I will try to explain or clear things up for you.