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[StarX777]

E-CONTROL-rx.

I have taking 5-6 Prohormone cycles in the past...some of them very strong....but can E-CONTROL-rx along with others be used as a PCT after a Prohormone is used? I used other PCT things before.... but I'm just wondering on this....some have said yes.

Thanks and keep the hard work up!

 

[StarX777]

Any help would be nice.

IronMags sells good products...just seeing if this would help with the PCT along with other things I know of.

Take Care!

 

[StarX777]

Ideally E-control+Ultra male would be best combo for PCT if you're going that route, but yes can be used... that's what I'm using, and it works. Ultimately it would depend on the PH used tho, 6-oxo is fairly mild as an AI, but should work for most, if not all of IML's products

Thanks!


While I'm pretty fit, not fit as some of you on the forum, I'm suffering from anxiety and depression because of PTSD that I will not go into, I have taken the Super DMZ original and others while dealing with anxiety and depression because of the PTSD, now, can prohormones effect your brain chemistry? I have done my research, one side says blue and the other red, I heard prohormones can make you feel like crap as well.




I been on Super DMZ original for 2 mouths straight 2 times a day...longer then what the bottle says to use it, and though I'm dealing with PTSD right now..... sometimes I feel Super DMZ is making me feel more like crap.......but hard to prove it.....any experts if they can effect brain neurons or chemistry of the brain?


I been On Super DMZ 2.0 and methyl-extreme as well.


I'll live either way, but just wondering.


I find it hard to believe that someone can gain 20 pounds of muscle on prohormones in a mouth or even 15.......I still think this stuff cannot compete with the real stuff.....but that is what I think.




Take Care!

PS-Thanks!

 

[StarX777]

Also if you're still in, active duty, I would suggest you wait before trying to re-draw your mental framework, as this could cause major mental/emotional conflicts if you get re-deployed. There's a verse in one of Eminem's raps that says "In the land of the sinners, a killers mind is a sanctum." And that shit has some truth to it, so if you're still on-call I would suggest you use that shit to your advantage.

Stay in, file your med-board claim on PTSD issues (medboard usually takes about a year to a year and a half to go through), and once you're on your way out, then start working out your issues. Otherwise you could end up more fucked up (in the mental PTSD sense) than you already are, it IS possible, so just be smart. Again, best of luck!

I appreciate the help.

Thanks!

 

[StarX777]

No problem! One last thing, when you start your medboard claim, be sure to claim EVERYTHING conceivable, from your head down to your toes.... It took me about a year and a half from the day I started the process to the day I got discharged to get everything filed properly, VA is a pain in the ass. I went through 5 hospitals, across 3 different bases, have about 35-50 Colonels/MD's signatures on all of my paperwork, PTSD was the only thing I didn't claim since I was never deployed. Stay consistent with your stories, and use everything you can to your advantage, any disciplinary actions that can suggest mental/psychological imbalance may also be used as documented proof (tho within reason). Any xrays/MRIs/sick call slips for any physical conditions may be compounded to the medboard claim so you can get extra benefits.

PTSD symptoms/causes may vary across the board, but I've found the case I described to be the most common among military folk. There was one one story I heard of a PVT in BCT who decided he didn't like his position and just wanted out, so he started playing basketball with his imagination (no shit) untill he was discharged, pretty funny, and props to that kid, but that's not actual PTSD, tho it had a hint of the idea in it. In any case I think you understand the procedure, again, good luck, claim everything, and be consistent.

I wish you a speedy recovery, if they prescribe you anti-psychotic medication, I would recommend you receive the pills, and DON'T TAKE THEM, since they can actually do more harm than good (they keep you lethargic, and just cover the symptoms, not treat the actual disease, so they will be useless in helping you resolve your issues.) Just go back to the doctors later and tell them the pills didn't work..... and keep moving forward with your claim. It's a long process, so just play the game and make daily incremental victories, eventually you'll be a free man and have a decent cushion of funds to re-structure your life. Take care!

Thanks!


I know what PTSD is, I'm 26 years old, I been in anti-psychotic, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, these drugs for me personally did way more harm then good, and while I might have PTSD combined with crippling anxiety and depression at times now these pills did not work for me, they do help some though.


I should not say this in the open, but my Dad has the true definition of a mental illness...Paranoid Schizophrenia, he is on Risperdal, keeps him it least level headed, without it, he being seeing aliens and gods and who knows what the hell, else, his free will was violated because of some stupid genetic he had. I think the mental heath industry is flawed...very flawed for treated both what some call neurological disorders or chemical imbalances and cognitive therapy and therapy is very flawed as it is.....but it's the best we got for now.


I hope one day science can manipulate genetics so they can make these things impossible to exists, because of a lot of what you are is purely pure genetics, this why some gain muscle faster...... recovery faster, so on, I do not make the rules, and the law of physics do not care either.


I appreciate your help and seems you seen the depths of hell and may it back alive, let us say while I'm dealing with things, many minds would of broke by now if I told the whole story, for I been through my share of hells like being abused at a young age, I have also been on Xanax before.....a benzodiazepines drug....but I refuse to take it long term use....some do and some need these pills to function, that's fine, just hope one day we can live in a world with true equality and peace and enlightenment witness for mankind so grand that it make you fall with joy...man needs it.




Okay, we got off the topic, LOL, I respect you since know pain, whether mental or physical or both, you continue to press on no matter how hard it may be.....you have my respect.


Take Care!

 

[StarX777]

If my other post does not get posted...then I do not know why.....oh well.

Peace!

John.

 

[StarX777]

Thanks!


I know what PTSD is, I'm 26 years old, I been in anti-psychotic, Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors, these drugs for me personally did way more harm then good, and while I might have PTSD combined with crippling anxiety and depression at times now these pills did not work for me, they do help some though.


I should not say this in the open, but my Dad has the true definition of a mental illness...Paranoid Schizophrenia, he is on Risperdal, keeps him it least level headed, without it, he being seeing aliens and gods and who knows what the hell, else, his free will was violated because of some stupid genetic he had. I think the mental heath industry is flawed...very flawed for treated both what some call neurological disorders or chemical imbalances and cognitive therapy and therapy is very flawed as it is.....but it's the best we got for now.


I hope one day science can manipulate genetics so they can make these things impossible to exists, because of a lot of what you are is purely pure genetics, this why some gain muscle faster...... recovery faster, so on, I do not make the rules, and the law of physics do not care either.


I appreciate your help and seems you seen the depths of hell and may it back alive, let us say while I'm dealing with things, many minds would of broke by now if I told the whole story, for I been through my share of hells like being abused at a young age, I have also been on Xanax before.....a benzodiazepines drug....but I refuse to take it long term use....some do and some need these pills to function, that's fine, just hope one day we can live in a world with true equality and peace and enlightenment witness for mankind so grand that it make you fall with joy...man needs it.




Okay, we got off the topic, LOL, I respect you since know pain, whether mental or physical or both, you continue to press on no matter how hard it may be.....you have my respect.


Take Care!

I made a few mistakes in the post....can't seem to edit it......oh well.

 

[StarX777]

Anytime John, tho I do sympathize with your situation, it will be up to you to find your way out of the mess, no one else can do that for you. As for your father, I think you know all too well that Paranoid Schizophrenia is a delusional disease, and altho I believe can also be recovered to a somewhat normal normal function, I personally couldn't even begin to tell you how to approach that one; I just don't have enough direct understanding of it, and each case is different... with some being hopeless. I suggest help where you can, but first and foremost fix your own issues.


I would say 99% of most genetic limitations/predispositions can be overcome with proper understanding and the right approach, as well as the right mindset. Your body/mind is actually capable of some incredible healing if you give it the proper time and space, you may be surprised.

I kinda disagree. so much of what are are based on genetics, some that say other wise are in denial, science has done what some would of claimed to be impossible or laughable at one point...so who knows if gene or genetic manipulation will be possible, that means... we can control are own genetics. some say the speed of light cannot be traveled faster then according to the laws of physics.... but one it could be shown wrong, all it takes is one person to show the rest they are all wrong.


Mankind has come long ways since the last 100 years, and if mankind does not start working together and stop thinking politicians like Republicans or Democrats are going to fix the USA or world they are in for a rude reality change. I have dabbled into conspiracy land before, I'm not saying they are right, but people just do not question politicians and lots of the times people paret what others say without thinking about what is being said......I can see why some people have lost hope in the human race.....we are killing the planet as it is.




This is a supplements and prohormones forum, but I'm tired of people saying on 12-21-12 we experience doom or some grand new age changed.....if nothing happens.......I advise everyone to laugh their A$$ off at them....get ready, LOL!
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Thanks again and you got my respect since you endure pain and kept your sanity, as I respect intelligence and other things as well.


My Dad has Paranoid Schizophrenia.......but I would say it's worse the actually definition of it........without his meds he would be forced to be locked up.
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I envy some of the guys that are so well fit compared to me.


PS- There is something called Epigenetics or Epigenesis...but I'm getting way off Topic. I will use the E-Control Rx along with other things......Thanks! yes, the mind is one powerful thing...... it's because of the big complex brains we have.


John.

 

[StarX777]

Check out this link brother, explains quite a bit on the myth and self-limitations of "Genetic Predisposition":
http://www.lifetrainings.com/Your-unconscious-mind-is-running-you-life.html
Again, individual cases may vary, but that's the general gist.

Take the e-control, would be best with Ultra Male if your aim is to boost natural test levels. Ultra Male is better at raising natural testosterone production, E-control is better at controlling estrogen (tho it also boosts test levels), together they work very well at doing both. This has been interesting, thanks, and best of luck!

You been a great help. I guess there is no more to keep saying in this topic.

Thanks again.