Starting a new stack. A little helpful guidance needed!!

[fredeezy]

Hey IML lovers. I'm getting back into the gym, its been maybe 5 months since I've touched a weight the last few semesters of college have been pretty heavy. But I have a lighter class load so I'm going back! I'm a huge fan of IML products and had great gains. But there is different stuff out now and I've been doing reading all night but still unsure.

So I've compiled a stack but I cant really understand the difference between 1andro and 4andro. Someone clear the air?

I still have 3 bottles of metha-drol extreme (I bought like 5 bottles before they discontinued) and love it! I gained mass super quick and gains were awesome but I lost a shit ton of water weight afterwards. So heres my stack and please give your opinions and advice on it.

Week 1-4
Methadrol 4x ed (two bottles)
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed
Anabolic Matrix 2x ed (IF THEY WERE IN STOCK grrrr!)

Week 5-8
Razor Cuts 2x ed
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed
Anabolic Matrix 2x ed (IF THEY WERE IN STOCK grrrr!)
E Control 3x ed

So thats it really nothing serious EXCEPT this is where I need my guidance. I was thinking of adding the 1andro and 4andro stack in with it. How do you think that would effect/alter performance (if any) with my methadrol? Also I added the Razor Cuts. Did I place it in the right weeks? would this help shed the water I would retain with Methadrol Extreme?

Should I consider anything else to stack?

Please share your knowledge fellow brethrens!!

 

[GospelWarrior]

Don't worry about the Anabolic Matrix being out of stock if you have Ultra Male. You can pick one or the other. No need to run both imo. You don't even have to run Ultra Male while on cycle unless you want added libido boost. I personally save Ultra Male for PCT. Also, E-control only needs to be run for 3 weeks, not 4. A SERM is a MUST with prohormones, especially something as powerful as Methadrol. Also, why do you want razor cuts in your PCT. Is this a contest prep for you? If you want you can add 4-Andro for added energy, libido, and aggression. It will combat lethargy nicely. Here's how I'd modify your cycle:

Week 1-4
Methadrol 4x ed (two bottles)
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed (optional)

Week 5-8
Clomid 50mg ed
Razor Cuts 2x ed (optional)
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed

E Control 3x ed for weeks 6-8

 

[ebfitness]

^ Cycle looks good, Gospel.

 

[fredeezy]

Don't worry about the Anabolic Matrix being out of stock if you have Ultra Male. You can pick one or the other. No need to run both imo. You don't even have to run Ultra Male while on cycle unless you want added libido boost. I personally save Ultra Male for PCT. Also, E-control only needs to be run for 3 weeks, not 4. A SERM is a MUST with prohormones, especially something as powerful as Methadrol. Also, why do you want razor cuts in your PCT. Is this a contest prep for you? If you want you can add 4-Andro for added energy, libido, and aggression. It will combat lethargy nicely. Here's how I'd modify your cycle:

Week 1-4
Methadrol 4x ed (two bottles)
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed (optional)

Week 5-8
Clomid 50mg ed
Razor Cuts 2x ed (optional)
Advanced Cycle Support 4x ed 2am-2pm
Ultra Male Rx 1x ed

E Control 3x ed for weeks 6-8

The razor cuts I just thought I'd add to help me get rid of the water Ill retain with the methadrol. Would that be a no no? lol. Where can I get a serm? I see the ostra rx which is a sarm. I also thought about that last night but it seems it can go anywhere, like bridging or pct so where would you recommend I put it in my stack?

Ok so clomid is for estrogen? like novadex right?

Lastly would you recommend the 1 andro with this? or even the 4 andro as well (2 bottles each)?

 

[chip]

4 caps methadrol is extreme in my opinion. Unless you are a 250+ pound guy I would not go over three a day.much rather see you go three a day and run the cycle an extra 10 days or so.

 

[fredeezy]

4 caps methadrol is extreme in my opinion. Unless you are a 250+ pound guy I would not go over three a day.much rather see you go three a day and run the cycle an extra 10 days or so.

Oh you think that would be best? I can do that. What are you thoughts about what I said previously about the Ostra rx and 1 and 4andro?

 

[chip]

4-andro will definitely go well with methadrol. May help with any lethargic sides. I would save Osta for another cycle.
What are your stats anyway?

 

[fredeezy]

Why just recommend 4andro and not 1andro?

Im 24
6'2
190lbs
bmi-unknown

 

[chip]

I believe 4-andro is better for lethargy. Is also a mass builder and would be a good compliment to methadrol.

 

[GospelWarrior]

The razor cuts I just thought I'd add to help me get rid of the water Ill retain with the methadrol. Would that be a no no? lol. Where can I get a serm? I see the ostra rx which is a sarm. I also thought about that last night but it seems it can go anywhere, like bridging or pct so where would you recommend I put it in my stack?

Ok so clomid is for estrogen? like novadex right?


Lastly would you recommend the 1 andro with this? or even the 4 andro as well (2 bottles each)?

The E-Control sucks water out of me in my experience. It's your choice if you think you need the Razorcuts after the cycle.

 

[fredeezy]

I believe 4-andro is better for lethargy. Is also a mass builder and would be a good compliment to methadrol.

Ok Thank you for the info! that helps clear it up for me.

The E-Control sucks water out of me in my experience. It's your choice if you think you need the Razorcuts after the cycle.

I didnt know E control did that! I know that with methadrol (like I said in my first post) I had great gains and my weight went up to where I wanted and knew I would lose some of that in water but I was thinking the razor cuts would help cut that sooner so I would retain a lot of my gains. I guess saying that now I should have posted that in my cycle weeks.

Any more thoughts on that?