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Just curious, does anyone else have an experience with Torem? I chose it as my SERM for my first cycle and must say it's been working out great so far. Balls grew like magic in just a few days, no sides to speak of whatsoever, and I have yet to go down in any my lifts since stopping cycle. I see most everyone here recommend Clomid and was just wondering if anyone else had given Torem a run yet. I've got nothing but god things to report about it!

FYI dosing has been 60/30/30/30 since it was such a mild cycle (Halo @ 75mg for 4 weeks). For longer/harsher cycles I would probably go 90/60/30/30/
 
I did torem on my third cycle and felt like the hulk on it. And although I got good results from it, I still recommend clomid

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Plenty of scientific research has been done and most all of it shows that Nolva is the best SERM for HPTA recovery. Followed closely by Clomid with Torem and Raloxifene quite a bit behind the 1st two. I dont feel like finding research data and posting it but have seen these same results many times. They all work and if you are happy with the results then you have the right SERM for you.
 
It's under debate strongly in what I say next, but I was under the impression that nolva was only to be used as a pct if gyno signs were present? If not use then use clomid?

Side note: towards the end of 4 weeks on 50/50/50/50 clo, I get bright eye spots when going from dark to light room (which I read is common) have u seen those before

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I've heard many different arguments on SERMS. I've heard arguments saying Clomid is best for HPTA recovery while Nolva is best for gyno (But still boosting HPTA functionality) and others saying Nolva is best for HPTA recovery like Pete said. Guess both could be right? I've also seen posts stating Ralox is actually best for gyno due to the way it functions and specifically targets breast tissue, but who knows, it always seems to be a hot debate over which is best. Then of course come the sides and other issues - I always thought Clomid was known for having sides, and have heard Nolva is harsher on your body than most other SERMs. it definitely seems like there is less research and general use of Torem and Ralox since they're considered "2nd generation" SERMs and have been out for less time.

I was curious to see what others had experienced with their favorite SERMs and specifically Torem because I had heard so much good about it before.
 
Nolva works just like Clomid with respect to being a competitive antagonist that stops estrogen from binding to it's receptor but Nolva has an affinity to target this process in breast tissue particularly well. This works great for treating Gyno symptoms and also works great as a PCT without gyno symptoms. I personally use Nolva and have for years....also helps that I have a prescription for it.:D Also, I like the thought of taking only 20mg ED as opposed to 2.5 times more @ 50mg ED with clomid. I have read of many less sides form Nolva as well. The vision thing you experience from clomid is a well documented side effect. I dont like anything that messes with my vision......gonna be sticking with Nolva for now.
 
RoadstarPete said:
Nolva works just like Clomid with respect to being a competitive antagonist that stops estrogen from binding to it's receptor but Nolva has an affinity to target this process in breast tissue particularly well. This works great for treating Gyno symptoms and also works great as a PCT without gyno symptoms. I personally use Nolva and have for years....also helps that I have a prescription for it.:D Also, I like the thought of taking only 20mg ED as opposed to 2.5 times more @ 50mg ED with clomid. I have read of many less sides form Nolva as well. The vision thing you experience from clomid is a well documented side effect. I dont like anything that messes with my vision......gonna be sticking with Nolva for now.
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You wouldn't believe what I saw when I ate 20g of shrooms... I can't even explain it online. I def like my vision getting whacky from time to time! lolol
 
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