Upper right abdomen discomfort (10 days into cycle)

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Today is the 10th day of my cycle and i have started to get some dull pain on my upper right abdomen, nothing that makes you cringe, it's more of a discomfort, feels as if you need to stretch.

my cycle:
Ultra-sten 2x daily
Deca-drol max 3x dialy

I am taking cycle armor 2x in the evening and coq10 in afternoon.
Making sure i drink 3-5 litres a day.
I consume the PH with food, and 2 out of the 3 times i digest the PH with fish oil.

Should i remove ultra-sten (methylated) and continue with deca-drol max (non-methylated).
Or stop the cycle completely.

If i stop the cycle, should i go to PCT (today is the 10th day of cycle).

for PCT i had planned to take nolva which i have in hand and ultra male.
I also have DAA.

thanks all
 
You probably just pulled a muscle or something from exerting extra force during your workouts. I doubt it's liver related being only 10 days in, unless you've been drinking and/or this cycle is immediately following a previous one.
 
locallifter said:
You probably just pulled a muscle or something from exerting extra force during your workouts. I doubt it's liver related being only 10 days in, unless you've been drinking and/or this cycle is immediately following a previous one.
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I agree with this. How long have you been experiencing the dull pain?
 
Thank you all
This is my first cycle and I have been feeling it since day 8 no alcohol since xmas.
 
The dosages look sane so no comments on that. What have your workouts been lately prior to the pain?
 
downz said:
The dosages look sane so no comments on that. What have your workouts been lately prior to the pain?
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Nothing out of the ordinary. Same movements as I would usually do. Only main change ive made is increase sets and decreased weight.
I did add one arm dumbbell curl - the only new movement I have incorporated.
I do remember I had a similar pain before xmas but went away and just forgot about it... taking the ph may have made me jump to conclusions..

Others are suggesting it could be gallstones..
Which would require abdominal ultrasound. And an 8-12 hr fast.

If I decide to stop my cycle (today 11th day) should I go into my pct?

This is what I had planned and thanks to those that helped with dosage and product recommendations:

Week 1-2
Nolva 20mg
Ultra male 1 cap
Week 3-4
Nolva 10mg
Ultramale 1 cap
Week 5-6
Nolva 10mg

I also have DAA and ZMA.
I also have bpi sports a-hd
 
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Go get it checked out...the last dull pain I had in my upper right abdominal I ignored...that landed me a emergency surgery to remove my ruptured appendix and the nice football size mess of gangrene that set it....was a nice 6 day hospital stay....

Better safe the sorry ..
 
thanks guys i will go get myself checked tomorrow, highly doubt i can get an ultra sound on the same day though.
hoping it's nothing that will keep me off the game for too long :(

i will stop taking my supplements.
Should i continue to take Armor cycle and coq10 for say, another 7 days?

i will not take my PCT as you have suggested, but is there anything to look out for in specific that should concern me to take my PCT?

anyways will let you all know what it was when i get the results.

thanks again guys.
 
If your getting it checked out today just wait tell after you see what's up before deciding any further supp use or whats next...

Could be nothing ....I learned my lesson the hard way....
 
Better safe than sorry, you have many more cycles in your future, why risk your health for just one? Keep us informed.
 
Went to the doctors today and the first question he asked was "have you been taking steroids" lol, to which i said "nope" ofc lol. He wants me to take blood for my liver and an x-ray. I know this should be the last thing on my mind but: If - the problem was not related to the supplement, and it is say, gallstone or a muscle related - would 11 days in general on the supplement show large amounts of difference on liver and cholesterol levels - in particular FBE, E/LFTs, BSL, LIPIDS/HDL and TFTs. while taking Cycle support, coq10 etc. Because i am thinking if this blood determines that ive taken supplement then i would like to delay it just another couple of days.. Opinions please! thanks
 
s2h said:
If your getting it checked out today just wait tell after you see what's up before deciding any further supp use or whats next...

Could be nothing ....I learned my lesson the hard way....
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Thanks! i have stopped it for the meantime and hope it is something i can treat quickly.
Now that i think about it with a clearer head, i highly doubt the PH has caused it.

The timing was just so unfortunate! as i read a lot of people say they feel the PH kick in after 14 -16 days into cycle i was getting excited.. i was on the 11th! but i guess it could have been worse.
 
Play it safe and you will be way ahead. Are you doing any sort of mini PCT to be safe?
 
Ultra male won't hurt nor would a little econtrol. You wernt on too long so either way you should be fine. Ide ultra male it up a bit if it was me if u have it on hand.
 
riceorpasta said:
Went to the doctors today and the first question he asked was "have you been taking steroids" lol, to which i said "nope" ofc lol. He wants me to take blood for my liver and an x-ray. I know this should be the last thing on my mind but: If - the problem was not related to the supplement, and it is say, gallstone or a muscle related - would 11 days in general on the supplement show large amounts of difference on liver and cholesterol levels - in particular FBE, E/LFTs, BSL, LIPIDS/HDL and TFTs. while taking Cycle support, coq10 etc. Because i am thinking if this blood determines that ive taken supplement then i would like to delay it just another couple of days.. Opinions please! thanks
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your values could be a little off...
 
s2h said:
your values could be a little off...
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Thanks.
Been 5 days since ive stopped my 11 day cycle. Hopefully my liver levels have normalized.. nothing too insane for the doctor to notice ive taken supps.

Ive still been getting the pain but they havent been as bad as last day during cycle. could be a mental thing though.

Time to go get blood and abdomen x ray. Keep youse posted.
 
possible ulcer could be the issue...never really know..good your getting checked out..keep us posted..
 
s2h said:
possible ulcer could be the issue...never really know..good your getting checked out..keep us posted..
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will do.
Results wont be ready until monday - wednesday apparently.
For the meantime taking 3g of DAA with ultra male.. going to add creatine from today.
Going to continue this until i get my self fixed up then back onto the cycle hopefully soon. (if liver is fine!)
 
Sorry been busy and didnt get to update you.

X ray
no abnormality found

Blood
Before After
AST 39 U/L AST 38 U/L (Normal range <35)
ALT 28 U/L ALT 54 U/L (Normal range <40)
LDL 2.7 nmol/L LDL 4.2 mnol/L (Normal range 2.1-4.0)

just a little out of the normal range, nothing the doctor was concerned about.
However he suggested no alcohol and creatine for about a month.

The pain continues so i might go see another doctor, I'm guessing it's gallstone but this doctor doesnt seem to think so.
 
riceorpasta said:
Sorry been busy and didnt get to update you.

X ray
no abnormality found

Blood
Before After
AST 39 U/L AST 38 U/L (Normal range <35)
ALT 28 U/L ALT 54 U/L (Normal range <40)
LDL 2.7 nmol/L LDL 4.2 mnol/L (Normal range 2.1-4.0)

just a little out of the normal range, nothing the doctor was concerned about.
However he suggested no alcohol and creatine for about a month.

The pain continues so i might go see another doctor, I'm guessing it's gallstone but this doctor doesnt seem to think so.
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Huh...strange. Keep us posted.
 
Have had some gallstones before...it tends to come and go as in the discomfort..very possible...would get a second opinion....
 
s2h said:
Have had some gallstones before...it tends to come and go as in the discomfort..very possible...would get a second opinion....
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sir you were right on the case.

sorry i havent updated this thread, but about 5 weeks ago i rushed down to the hospital and had a bunch of funny looking people wearing white/blue overalls playing with my stomach and removing stones from my body lol.

oh wells.. it has been awhile since ive hit the gym which is very depressing but plan to go back next week which marks my 6th week!
might do another cycle 8weeks post operation but this time with halo instead of deca-drol max + m-sten.

will post my planned cycle away from this thread though!
thanks to everyone who helped me with this thread. cheers boys!
 
riceorpasta said:
sir you were right on the case.

sorry i havent updated this thread, but about 5 weeks ago i rushed down to the hospital and had a bunch of funny looking people wearing white/blue overalls playing with my stomach and removing stones from my body lol.

oh wells.. it has been awhile since ive hit the gym which is very depressing but plan to go back next week which marks my 6th week!
might do another cycle 8weeks post operation but this time with halo instead of deca-drol max + m-sten.

will post my planned cycle away from this thread though!
thanks to everyone who helped me with this thread. cheers boys!
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Welcome back, man!
 
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