First PH Cycle - What To Run ?

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I'm planning my first PH cycle and I was thinking something along the lines of this:


Super DMZ 3.0 - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day (too strong for a first time user or what?)
Cycle Support - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day

4 weeks

PCT

Ultra Male - 1 cap day
E-Control - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day

Does this make any sense ? Goal is LEAN MASS and recomp effects with a lean diet, not too aggressive on the cals.

Current stats:
5'6
168 lbs
BF idk...probably around 12%

Is PCT decent or do I need Nolva and other stuff ? Please keep in mind that I want a PH only cycle so orals only as I will be running a real test cycle later on, but right now I can't afford pinning myself weekly.
 
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First cycle, go with halo stacked with Epi andro. Super dmz is not fit for beginners or even people with only 3 cycles. It's for advanced users with multiple cycles. It has 3 compounds in it. Go with the halo and Epi andro for sure. Be sure to have nolva for pct and your cycle supports.. you should make great progress
 
BeserkerBlood said:
I'm planning my first PH cycle and I was thinking something along the lines of this:


Super DMZ 3.0 - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day (too strong for a first time user or what?)
Cycle Support - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day

4 weeks

PCT

Ultra Male - 1 cap day
E-Control - AM/PM - 2 Caps a day

Does this make any sense ? Goal is LEAN MASS and recomp effects with a lean diet, not too aggressive on the cals.

Current stats:
5'6
168 lbs
BF idk...probably around 12%

Is PCT decent or do I need Nolva and other stuff ? Please keep in mind that I want a PH only cycle so orals only as I will be running a real test cycle later on, but right now I can't afford pinning myself weekly.
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Sdmz3.0 really isnt a good choice for a first time user...A)its very potent and its a bit much for the first time out B)its a mulity(3)compound product...so if you have any negative effects it hard to decifier the cause as you can't remove one or more from the equation...

Imo halo-extreme or epi-andro at the recommended doses is a great start...some people never move past those and still illicate great results...

Ultra-male and e-control will suffice a PCT on either...always use advanced cycle support while on and while in PCT..
 
Alright ! Thanks for the quick replies !

How would my cycle setup if I were to use Halo-Extreme and Epi-Andro stacked together ?

2 CAPS each ED AM/PM for 4 weeks ? or 1 CAP each ED AM/Pm for 6 weeks ?

PCT and on-cycle stays the same ?
 
BeserkerBlood said:
Alright ! Thanks for the quick replies !

How would my cycle setup if I were to use Halo-Extreme and Epi-Andro stacked together ?

2 CAPS each ED AM/PM for 4 weeks ? or 1 CAP each ED AM/Pm for 6 weeks ?

PCT and on-cycle stays the same ?
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I would go with 3 caps Halo ED (2 am 1 pm) and 4 epi-andro ED (2 am 2 pm) for 6 weeks. also take 3 caps ACS prior to bed. that's what I'm running right now and I haven't had any issues so far.

I would also recommend a SERM like Nolva or Clomid as part of your PCT especially if you go for 6 weeks.
 
Cycle
weeks 1 - 6
halo
3 caps upon waking

Epi andro
3 caps upon waking

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed


pct
weeks 7 - 10
nolva
20mg (1mL) prior to bed

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed

ultra male
1 cap prior to bed

weeks 10 - 12
E-control
3 caps prior to bed

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed

ultra male
1 cap prior to bed



discounts are in my signature
Lmk if you have any questions or need any further help :)
 
adrenolin said:
Cycle
weeks 1 - 6
halo
3 caps upon waking

Epi andro
3 caps upon waking

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed


pct
weeks 7 - 10
nolva
20mg (1mL) prior to bed

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed

ultra male
1 cap prior to bed

weeks 10 - 12
E-control
3 caps prior to bed

advanced cycle support
3 caps prior to bed

ultra male
1 cap prior to bed



discounts are in my signature
Lmk if you have any questions or need any further help :)
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That sounds good ! However, why 3 caps instead of the 2 recommended a day ? More effective ?

And if I were to run only one compound, which one should I go for ? Basically, which one is drier ? I've seen some good reviews on Halo so far.
 
BeserkerBlood said:
That sounds good ! However, why 3 caps instead of the 2 recommended a day ? More effective ?

And if I were to run only one compound, which one should I go for ? Basically, which one is drier ? I've seen some good reviews on Halo so far.
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That's the effective dose and cycle length for the majority of users. It has a moderately long half life and will take up to 3weeks to fully kick in.

they're both very dry lean mass type of compounds, however if run solo, you will likely see better results from halo. Epi andro is best stacked with another provolone product
 
adrenolin said:
That's the effective dose and cycle length for the majority of users. It has a moderately long half life and will take up to 3weeks to fully kick in.

they're both very dry lean mass type of compounds, however if run solo, you will likely see better results from halo. Epi andro is best stacked with another provolone product
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That makes more sense ! Thanks a lot !
 
Absolutely no need to stack for your 1st cycle. Halo 3 caps ed for 6 weeks FTW. It's the best 1st cycle product there is IMO. You will see solid leans gains and improved vascularity with minimal sides if any at all.
 
RoadstarPete said:
Absolutely no need to stack for your 1st cycle. Halo 3 caps ed for 6 weeks FTW. It's the best 1st cycle product there is IMO. You will see solid leans gains and improved vascularity with minimal sides if any at all.
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Yeah, I was looking at the reviews, it definitely seems like a strong compound that is ideal for getting your feet wet.
 
well im glad i saw this post... i will be trying my first cycle too (if you dont count osta rx.. i just started this for 4 weeks then i will stop and wait till may) i was going to use this cycle.
Cycle
Weeks 1 - 4
Super DMZ Rx 3.0
2 caps daily upon waking

Epi Andro
4 caps daily upon waking

Advanced Cycle Support
4 caps daily prior to bed

but i think for a beginner that is way to strong.. so i will go with the halo and epi andro..
if you use this cycle please report back what you think
 
raymondtrudeau said:
well im glad i saw this post... i will be trying my first cycle too (if you dont count osta rx.. i just started this for 4 weeks then i will stop and wait till may) i was going to use this cycle.
Cycle
Weeks 1 - 4
Super DMZ Rx 3.0
2 caps daily upon waking

Epi Andro
4 caps daily upon waking

Advanced Cycle Support
4 caps daily prior to bed

but i think for a beginner that is way to strong.. so i will go with the halo and epi andro..
if you use this cycle please report back what you think
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Will do ! I'm planning to a run a Halo only cycle in a month or two, I'll update this thread or make a new one to log it out.
 
How much can be expected to gain on this cycle? And is halo extreme stronger then ostarine rx?
I would like to put on some size, I think this cycle is more for cutting isn't it?.. What you you recommend then for a first or second cycle to put on clean size (not fat lol)
Thanks…
 
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raymondtrudeau said:
How much can be expected to gain on this cycle? And is halo extreme stronger then ostarine rx?
I would like to put on some size, I think this cycle is more for cutting isn't it?.. What you you recommend then for a first or second cycle to put on clean size (not fat lol)
Thanks…
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Yes, Halo is stronger than Osta. However Osta is more versatile. Your diet will dictate your gains.. but I'd recommend Epi-Andro + M-Sten for your next cycle.
 
Ok thanks so m-sten and epi andro would be better for putting on mass? Should I run it for 6 weeks? And could you please let me know what the cycle should look like…
Right now iam on day 12 of osta rx 3 tabs per day… so far iam starting to get stronger and the pumps are unreal.. I have 2 bottles so I may stay on for 8 weeks then run ultra male foe 30 days.. Hopefully I will get some good gains…
Thanks..

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Yes, Halo is stronger than Osta. However Osta is more versatile. Your diet will dictate your gains.. but I'd recommend Epi-Andro + M-Sten for your next cycle.
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raymondtrudeau said:
Ok thanks so m-sten and epi andro would be better for putting on mass? Should I run it for 6 weeks? And could you please let me know what the cycle should look like…
Right now iam on day 12 of osta rx 3 tabs per day… so far iam starting to get stronger and the pumps are unreal.. I have 2 bottles so I may stay on for 8 weeks then run ultra male foe 30 days.. Hopefully I will get some good gains…
Thanks..
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Definitely run it the 8wks.. perfectly fine.

For the prohormone Cycle



Cycle:
Weeks 1 - 8
Epi-Andro
4 caps daily upon waking


Advanced Cycle Support
2 caps daily prior to bed


Weeks 1 - 6
M-Sten
3 caps daily upon waking


PCT:
Weeks 9 - 12
Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate)
1mL (20mg) nightly prior to bed


Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps daily prior to bed


Weeks 12 - 14
E-Control
3 caps nightly prior to bed


Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps daily prior to bed




Shopping Cart:
IronMagLabs
4x Epi-Andro
2x M-Sten
2x Advanced Cycle Support
1x E-Control




Hardcore Peptides
1x Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate)


Total: $47.98 incl shipping (with discount ADREN20)




Lmk if you have any questions or need help with anything. I'm here to help
 
Great and this is ok for a beginner my (2 nd cycle)?
Since I live in canada I have to order from orbit, but they dont sell e control.. ?Thanks agsin

QUOTE=adrenolin;35169]Definitely run it the 8wks.. perfectly fine.

For the prohormone Cycle



Cycle:
Weeks 1 - 8
Epi-Andro
4 caps daily upon waking


Advanced Cycle Support
2 caps daily prior to bed


Weeks 1 - 6
M-Sten
3 caps daily upon waking


PCT:
Weeks 9 - 12
Nolva (Tamoxifen Citrate)
1mL (20mg) nightly prior to bed


Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps daily prior to bed


Weeks 12 - 14
E-Control
3 caps nightly prior to bed


Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps daily prior to bed




Shopping Cart:
IronMagLabs
4x Epi-Andro
2x M-Sten
2x Advanced Cycle Support
1x E-Control




Hardcore Peptides
1x Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate)


Total: $47.98 incl shipping (with discount ADREN20)




Lmk if you have any questions or need help with anything. I'm here to help[/QUOTE]
 
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