Another first cycle thread

[ele1122]

Hey all, how is it going? I first off want to say thank you to everyone here for providing so much information for free. It's simply amazing. What a great community.

Now, I am planning on starting my first cycle in a couple weeks, and I wanted to get some advice. I tried to be as thorough as possible.

It's a short cycle.

preload cycle support for 1-2 weeks

Weeks 1-4:
Decadrol 3/day
1-andro 2/day
Cycle Support

4-8:
nolva 20 mg
ultra male 1/day
e-control
cycle support

How does that look for a simple, short cycle? I'm currently slowly bulking, I train full body 3x a week, judo and aikido 4 times a week, and eat as much veggies, eggs, burgers, fruits, milk etc as I can. I'm 6 ft ~200 lbs, active. 21 years old

Thank you everyone!

 

[Adrenolin]

Hey all, how is it going? I first off want to say thank you to everyone here for providing so much information for free. It's simply amazing. What a great community.

Now, I am planning on starting my first cycle in a couple weeks, and I wanted to get some advice. I tried to be as thorough as possible.

It's a short cycle.

preload cycle support for 1-2 weeks

Weeks 1-4:
Decadrol 3/day
1-andro 2/day
Cycle Support

4-8:
nolva 20 mg
ultra male 1/day
e-control
cycle support

How does that look for a simple, short cycle? I'm currently slowly bulking, I train full body 3x a week, judo and aikido 4 times a week, and eat as much veggies, eggs, burgers, fruits, milk etc as I can. I'm 6 ft ~200 lbs, active. 21 years old

Thank you everyone!

Welcome to the IronMagLabs forums, ele1122. You can save 15% OFF all your orders with Adrenolin15 at the check out.

That looks just fine, for a short simple cycle. A more effective first cycle would be to extend the Decadrol to 6wks, and add Epi-Andro in place of 1-Andro.

CYCLE
Weeks 1 - 6
Decadrol
4 caps upon waking

Epi-Andro
3 caps upon waking

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

PCT
Weeks 7 - 10
Nolvadex
20mg prior to bed

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

Ultra Male
1 cap prior to bed

Weeks 10 - 12
E-Control
3 caps prior to bed

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

Ultra Male
1 cap prior to bed

Shopping Cart
2x Decadrol
2x Epi-Andro
2x Advanced Cycle support
1x Ultra Male
1x E-Control

Hardcore Peptides
Nolvadex

 

[Adrenolin]

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'm here to help!

 

[ele1122]

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'm here to help!

Unfortunately I already ordered everything... Do you think I would have been better off with the Epi-andro?

i read about lethargy with 1-andro due to not having a testosterone base. Is this problematic.

Also, do you recommend for PTC, not taking the e control and ultra male during the nolva treatment?

thanks

 

[Adrenolin]

Unfortunately I already ordered everything... Do you think I would have been better off with the Epi-andro?

i read about lethargy with 1-andro due to not having a testosterone base. Is this problematic.

Also, do you recommend for PTC, not taking the e control and ultra male during the nolva treatment?

thanks

Much better off with the Epi-Andro, imho. One of the reasons being that it staves off and prevents lethargy. It's good for lean mass, strength, and fat loss as well.

You should pick up an extra bottle of Decadrol, and 1-Andro...the cycle is a little short imho to reach it's peak effects, don't be disappointed if it falls short of your expectations.


And yes, run the PCT as I have outlined above. The E-Control, an AI, is bridged after the SERM, Nolvadex to help prevent any estrogen rebound (which could occur from rapidly risen test levels from the SERM which are then susceptible to aromatization to estrogen post cycle) and in turn gynecomastia.

 

[ele1122]

Much better off with the Epi-Andro, imho. One of the reasons being that it staves off and prevents lethargy. It's good for lean mass, strength, and fat loss as well.

You should pick up an extra bottle of Decadrol, and 1-Andro...the cycle is a little short imho to reach it's peak effects, don't be disappointed if it falls short of your expectations.


And yes, run the PCT as I have outlined above. The E-Control, an AI, is bridged after the SERM, Nolvadex to help prevent any estrogen rebound (which could occur from rapidly risen test levels from the SERM which are then susceptible to aromatization to estrogen post cycle) and in turn gynecomastia.

hmm. Wish I had posted first. The order shipped today. I guess all I can do is to make the best of what I'm getting.

If I picked up another bottle of each, what do you suggest for dosing?

i appreciate the help

 

[ele1122]

Much better off with the Epi-Andro, imho. One of the reasons being that it staves off and prevents lethargy. It's good for lean mass, strength, and fat loss as well.

You should pick up an extra bottle of Decadrol, and 1-Andro...the cycle is a little short imho to reach it's peak effects, don't be disappointed if it falls short of your expectations.


And yes, run the PCT as I have outlined above. The E-Control, an AI, is bridged after the SERM, Nolvadex to help prevent any estrogen rebound (which could occur from rapidly risen test levels from the SERM which are then susceptible to aromatization to estrogen post cycle) and in turn gynecomastia.

I'm now contemplating ordering the epi-andro and another bottle of deca to do the other cycle you posted... maybe I'll save the 1-andro for a later time. Not sure yet.

Thoughts on that versus just doing another bottle extra of deca and 1-andro? (Aside from the monetary benefit for you). I feel like either one would probably be sufficient.

Edit: The problem is my order already shipped, so I have 1 bottle each of deca and 1-andro coming. For efficiency's sake that's why I was thinking of just going with those compounds.

Thanks

 

[Adrenolin]

I'm now contemplating ordering the epi-andro and another bottle of deca to do the other cycle you posted... maybe I'll save the 1-andro for a later time. Not sure yet.

Thoughts on that versus just doing another bottle extra of deca and 1-andro? (Aside from the monetary benefit for you). I feel like either one would probably be sufficient.

Edit: The problem is my order already shipped, so I have 1 bottle each of deca and 1-andro coming. For efficiency's sake that's why I was thinking of just going with those compounds.

Thanks

Yes, I agree with you. Since, you already ordered everything, I'd simply recommend picking up the extra bottle of deca and 1-andro... it's your first cycle, you'll still make great gains as long as you eat and train for it.

 

[ele1122]

Yes, I agree with you. Since, you already ordered everything, I'd simply recommend picking up the extra bottle of deca and 1-andro... it's your first cycle, you'll still make great gains as long as you eat and train for it.

Thank you. Last question... for 2 bottles each, what is the recommended cycle. Just another month at the regular dose?

 

[Adrenolin]

Thank you. Last question... for 2 bottles each, what is the recommended cycle. Just another month at the regular dose?

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Welcome to the IronMagLabs forums, ele1122. You can save 15% OFF all your orders with Adrenolin15 at the check out.

That looks just fine, for a short simple cycle. A more effective first cycle would be to extend the Decadrol to 6wks, and add Epi-Andro in place of 1-Andro.

CYCLE
Weeks 1 - 6
Decadrol
4 caps upon waking

1-Andro
3 caps upon waking

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

PCT
Weeks 7 - 10
Nolvadex
20mg prior to bed

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

Ultra Male
1 cap prior to bed

Weeks 10 - 12
E-Control
3 caps prior to bed

Advanced Cycle Support
3 caps prior to bed

Ultra Male
1 cap prior to bed

Shopping Cart
2x Decadrol
2x 1-Andro
2x Advanced Cycle support
1x Ultra Male
1x E-Control

Hardcore Peptides
Nolvadex

 

[ele1122]

*post*

God bless you. You are a saint. I look forward to receiving my order, and may the gains be with you.

 

[ebeyer.luke]

Hey man,

My first cycle was exactly what you ordered. I loved it. I put on 8 pounds or so of lean muscle. No sides. I've also kept everything i have gained from it. Strength and muscle hardness were through the roof. Overall a great starting cycle for me. Just ordered my M-sten stack... hopefully i get the same if not better results. Good luck brotha!

 

[ele1122]

Thanks for the reply. Would you mind providing some more details of your results? Did you experience any lethargy or loss of libido? How was your pct?

thanks bud. I'm starting in a week or two

 

[ebeyer.luke]

Sorry about that, did my last reply on my phone. Again, I did the same stack you did. I gained 8 lbs of lean mass. My strength was through the roof. I put 10-12 lbs on my bench, and more weight on other exercises. (keeping this short and sweet). Anyways, I've been off this stack for about 10 weeks. I did not lose anything. I retained my weight, both on my body, and on the bar. I have zero sides. No lethargy, no loss of libido. (im 21, nothing with stop my libido). The only thing i did wrong was i didnt PCT at all. MISTAKE. Definitely fixing that when i get this stack here in a few days. I did the IML e-control for like 3 days then stopped. I noticed nothing. No gyno, no loss of libido or lethargy. I have heard this is a very mild stack, great for beginners, so thats probably why i never noticed anything coming off. M-sten and epi-andro, so i have heard, is stronger. I have the ultra male, cycle support, and e-control already, all i need to get is my nolva.

You will enjoy this cycle, especially if it is your first. All i ask... dont be stupid like myself. Run the stack the right way, with the right products. i was lucky. Im not going to push my luck again.

Good luck!

 

[ele1122]

Thank you for your thoughts. It's good you didn't have any real issues. I'm trying to play it safe so I have everything laid out like the previous posts. Hoping to put on some weight and maybe lean out a little. We will see how it goes!