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tony1354142

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Ok. So here's the deal. I just ran a 30 day 4-andro/M-sten stack. Gains were great. Lost very little and I had fallen off the training during pct cause my wife broke her collar bone and needed me at her side like 24/7, help with daughter, etc... So planning my next cycle. I want to run something that will give me about the same size and strength gains as msten. I was looking at the andro stack but I know that class 1's BY THEMSELVES are relatively weak but added to a class 2 like I just ran and gains are maximized like no other. So I tossed thee andro stack out the window. Was looking at stacking andro with epi-tren but not sure if it's cost efficient. My last cycle looked like this
Week 1-3
2 caps 4-andro and 3 caps (30mg) of msten daily
Week 4
2 caps 4-andro and 4 caps (40mg) of msten daily

Last week was more like last 10 days since was actually 30 days and not 4 weeks (28 days)

So I thinking of epi tren but at how much to match 30mg of msten and 40mg last week? I don't know how powerful it is compared to msten at a mg to my basis. What I've researched is both are great for size and strength. Am I mistaken.

And finally I was thinking that maybe if run the same cycle but just up the andro and get 2 bottles this time. Which would be 4 caps of 4 andro daily but what I would like an opinion on with this is instead of runnin msten at 3 caps (30mg)for 4 weeks and the 4 andro at 3 caps and that would extend that also most 2 weeks longer passed the msten. Or should I just run
4 caps 4-andro daily
3 caps msten daily

Or is epi tren a better go for mass and strength. Again I'm just asking for opinions. I do my own research I'm just asking for opinions or someone's take who's had experience with both and which one they liked best.
 
tony1354142 said:
Ok. So here's the deal. I just ran a 30 day 4-andro/M-sten stack. Gains were great. Lost very little and I had fallen off the training during pct cause my wife broke her collar bone and needed me at her side like 24/7, help with daughter, etc... So planning my next cycle. I want to run something that will give me about the same size and strength gains as msten. I was looking at the andro stack but I know that class 1's BY THEMSELVES are relatively weak but added to a class 2 like I just ran and gains are maximized like no other. So I tossed thee andro stack out the window. Was looking at stacking andro with epi-tren but not sure if it's cost efficient. My last cycle looked like this
Week 1-3
2 caps 4-andro and 3 caps (30mg) of msten daily
Week 4
2 caps 4-andro and 4 caps (40mg) of msten daily

Last week was more like last 10 days since was actually 30 days and not 4 weeks (28 days)

So I thinking of epi tren but at how much to match 30mg of msten and 40mg last week? I don't know how powerful it is compared to msten at a mg to my basis. What I've researched is both are great for size and strength. Am I mistaken.

And finally I was thinking that maybe if run the same cycle but just up the andro and get 2 bottles this time. Which would be 4 caps of 4 andro daily but what I would like an opinion on with this is instead of runnin msten at 3 caps (30mg)for 4 weeks and the 4 andro at 3 caps and that would extend that also most 2 weeks longer passed the msten. Or should I just run
4 caps 4-andro daily
3 caps msten daily

Or is epi tren a better go for mass and strength. Again I'm just asking for opinions. I do my own research I'm just asking for opinions or someone's take who's had experience with both and which one they liked best.
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Whatever you decide to run, I'd drop the 4-Andro and replace it with Epi-Andro... it's much more effective in all aspects. As for Epi-Tren, it's more a shredding/strength product - don't expect to gain a LOT of mass with Epi-Tren as you would with M-Sten. However the gains would be much more lean and dense, coming on at a slower rate making them much more easily kept. At minimum, for Epi-Tren, I'd recommend NO LESS than 6 caps ed for 6wks.
 
Well what would you dose dmz to see gains comparable to 30mg of msten. I was lookin at that this morning
 
1 cap of sdmz 3.0 would be comparable to 30 mgs msten
 
Get the fuck outta here! Really?? I seen the chem make up but wasn't sure what the other 2 chems were
 
I mean I see one is is a methylated version of 1-AD but not sure what that is doing there. With it having only 10 grams I methylstenbolone I'm guessing these other two compounds produce the same effects as methylstenbolone
 
Alpha 1 10 mgs. DMZ 10 mgs and Msten 10 mgs
 
Yea I seen that. But these three are as strong as msten @ 30mg alone? For size and strength? I ask cuz that's my goal. Methylating a compound increases it's strength but, hell idk, ima run it and see what happens
 
These are the 3 strongest on the market
 
Oh really? Didn't know that, although I've read reviews on super Dmz . Guys swear by it but I just used msten and know it works. Thanks for clearing it up. I would imagine 2 caps per day will be the Max dose then. Would u recommend that dose or is that too high?
 
I ran it at 2 caps per day with great results but some have done 1 a day as well
 
Eh ima go hard or go to the fuckin house typa guy lol. Sides weren't too bad @ that dose?
 
Not really.
 
It's settled then...
Weeks 1-4
2 caps of Super Dmz daily
4 caps of 4-Andro daily

Weeks 5-8
Tamoxifen 40/20/20/20
Some type of test booster (tribulus maybe .. Any suggestions there?)
 
Ultra Male
 
Thanx. Oh and I got e-control on hand just in case.
 
Nice. Good luck with gainzzzzzz
 
Anytime
 
Now I'm fuckin excited! Lol only problem is that I'm ordering next payday but can't start till July ...shit
 
Just one more thing. As I'm looking up reviews and research on Super DMZ 3.0, which I gotta say have shown promising result.... With this having 30mg of three methylated compounds..am I about to tax the fuck out of my liver. I mean everyone I've seen is taking to caps a day but is this like taking 60mg of msten? Cuz I'd never dose msten at that cuz OMG my liver would come spewing out mouth. I mean I'm sure these guys dosing Super DMZ 3.0 at 2 caps a day are the same guys that would tell me to not go above 30-40mg of msten. I mean is it some how safer that 60mg of msten?
 
Yes. It's safer
 
Ok cuz jesus I was conflicted. Cuz I REALLY wanna run this....@ 2 caps a day
 
You'll be fine. I actually ran it without support to see how harsh it was
 
tony1354142 said:
Just one more thing. As I'm looking up reviews and research on Super DMZ 3.0, which I gotta say have shown promising result.... With this having 30mg of three methylated compounds..am I about to tax the fuck out of my liver. I mean everyone I've seen is taking to caps a day but is this like taking 60mg of msten? Cuz I'd never dose msten at that cuz OMG my liver would come spewing out mouth. I mean I'm sure these guys dosing Super DMZ 3.0 at 2 caps a day are the same guys that would tell me to not go above 30-40mg of msten. I mean is it some how safer that 60mg of msten?
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You might wanna try 1 cap a day of the Super DMZ 3.0 for the first week and see how you feel, if you feel fine then increase it to 2 caps a day, if you start feeling shitty drop back down to 1 cap a day.
 
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