Epi Andro rx and epi tren rx

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I have done four cycles in the last two years. I am looking to continue to lean out but maintain or increase strength. I will be on a slight calorie deficit while I am doing this cutting. I am 49 years old 6'2 230 and about 10% body fat. I also have ran osta 4 times, the last time for 8 weeks. I am going to start another stack in mid July for 6 weeks.

I was wondering if anybody had thoughts on stacking both the epi products together. I was thinking about doing 6 weeks of epi Andro with the last four weeks combined with trenabol. But maybe the new epi tren would be better. It would be a lower dose of tren but adding the methyl androstane.

I am on trt treatment. My last blood work came back great. I was at normal levels on liver. My shgb is really low out of the normal from taking Osta. My free test was above normal because of that. My total testosterone was 605 but my free was 344 with the normal range being 50-245. If nothing else osta seems to raise my free test substantially by lowering my shbg.

I ended the osta 4 weeks ago.


I was thinking of doing the following:

weeks 1-2

epi andro 4 per day
Advanced cycle support 4 per day
Test cyp. 100ml every 5 days
liquid dex 35 mg day of shot and day after shot

Weeks 3-6
Epi andro 4 per day
Epi tren 4 per day
Advanced cycle support 4 per day
Test cyp. 100ml very 5 days
Liquid dex 35mg day of shot and day after shot

weeks 7-14
Osta rx 3 per day
Continue trt



or would I be better going with Trenabol?
 
Epi Tren is pretty stout. Not sure I would go 4 caps daily on that phase of the cycle brother. Maybe run 2 caps daily and feel it out first.
 
Sounds good, I will try that. One other question.

I tend to have more testosterone aromatize when running any of these cycles. I usually have to start Nova by week two. Do you think I should increase the dex while on this cycle? My last two blood work panels had my estrogen in the the normal doing the dex dose twice around the time I do a shot. I do get puffy nipples a week after I start my cycle every time. (sdmz Or halo)
 
Not sure where you're getting that Arimidex dose from, but it's usually somewhere in the range of .5mg/100mg of test you're shooting per week, 35mg is more than a whole bottle from Purity Solutions! As for the dose of the PH, 4 caps may be a bit high to start on the Epi-tren, but not out of the question. Each cap has 40mg of Tren (Identical compound to BSLs Trenabol) and 10mg of Epistane. The Tren is usually dosed in the range of 60-120mg ed and Epi 20-50mg ed, with higher doses (But not much higher) occasionally seen. 4 caps daily would net you 160mg of tren and 40mg of Epi. personally I'd do 3 caps of the Epi-tren and supplement in another one cap of just epi if you wanted it. I'm thinking 3 caps will be the sweet spot, but 4 would be a pretty sweet dose of tren.
 
locallifter said:
Not sure where you're getting that Arimidex dose from, but it's usually somewhere in the range of .5mg/100mg of test you're shooting per week, 35mg is more than a whole bottle from Purity Solutions! As for the dose of the PH, 4 caps may be a bit high to start on the Epi-tren, but not out of the question. Each cap has 40mg of Tren (Identical compound to BSLs Trenabol) and 10mg of Epistane. The Tren is usually dosed in the range of 60-120mg ed and Epi 20-50mg ed, with higher doses (But not much higher) occasionally seen. 4 caps daily would net you 160mg of tren and 40mg of Epi. personally I'd do 3 caps of the Epi-tren and supplement in another one cap of just epi if you wanted it. I'm thinking 3 caps will be the sweet spot, but 4 would be a pretty sweet dose of tren.
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My bad that should read.35 so that is only .70 every five days.
I was going to go with the recommendation of Heavyiron to only do 2 per day on the epi tren then work up from their is need be. Thanks for the rest of the information.

I had not heard that dosing idea on the dex I do that on my own and just got a starting point based on my blood work before and after. It sounds like I am in the ball park.
 
If you're getting puffy nips that quick it would seem like you need a higher dose, but if your bloodwork comes back good maybe not, idk... It's a science, but not always an exact one. Could also try another AI, ever try Letro? It can kill libido like no other from what I've heard, but is also excellent at what it does, so it may be worth a shot on a low-dose.
 
locallifter said:
If you're getting puffy nips that quick it would seem like you need a higher dose, but if your bloodwork comes back good maybe not, idk... It's a science, but not always an exact one. Could also try another AI, ever try Letro? It can kill libido like no other from what I've heard, but is also excellent at what it does, so it may be worth a shot on a low-dose.
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I have not tried Letro but I was going to up my dose to every other day if I get back to the puffy nipples. My doctor just has me on the test with nothing else and I had a problem from the start with puffy nipples. But he does not prescribe any anti estrogen drugs even after I asked about it. So I started nova for a while but found the amex keeps things in check when I am not doing anything else but test. So I will keep experimenting with the dose if it becomes a problem again. My last blood work was 7 weeks after a halo cycle and while I was still running osta. I have been on TRT for 2 and half years.
 
fastode said:
Sounds good, I will try that. One other question.

I tend to have more testosterone aromatize when running any of these cycles. I usually have to start Nova by week two. Do you think I should increase the dex while on this cycle? My last two blood work panels had my estrogen in the the normal doing the dex dose twice around the time I do a shot. I do get puffy nipples a week after I start my cycle every time. (sdmz Or halo)
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You may be getting gyno symptoms from another pathway other than aromatization. Therefore I would use Nolvadex to keep the symptoms at bay.
 
locallifter said:
Each cap has 40mg of Tren (Identical compound to BSLs Trenabol) and 10mg of Epistane. The Tren is usually dosed in the range of 60-120mg ed and Epi 20-50mg ed, with higher doses (But not much higher) occasionally seen. 4 caps daily would net you 160mg of tren and 40mg of Epi. personally I'd do 3 caps of the Epi-tren and supplement in another one cap of just epi if you wanted it. I'm thinking 3 caps will be the sweet spot, but 4 would be a pretty sweet dose of tren.
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My bottles of Epi-Tren say 10 mg of Epi and 10 mg of Tren per cap........am I missing something?
 
Swoldier said:
My bottles of Epi-Tren say 10 mg of Epi and 10 mg of Tren per cap........am I missing something?
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No that is what is on my bottle. I am doing two a day right now stacking it with 4 a day of epi andro. Next week I am increasing to 3 a day. Blackstone labs tren has 15 per cap. So at three a day of epi tren I would be taking the same as two a day as far as the Tren.
 
Yeah, I wasn't really understanding what he was saying to you on the dosing. Seemed a little out there so I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

I am just entering week two of my Epi-Tren/Epi-Andro Cycle. I am running 9 Epi-Tren a day (3 pills 3 times daily) and 4 Epi-Andro a day (2 in the AM and two more 5 hours later) with little to no sides.

Good luck with your cycle!
 
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