Is the M-Sten RX stack just fine as is? I see people adding clomid, etc.

20-40 mg per day is ideal.

The reason you see guys adding stuff like Clomid is because they are tring to recover their natural testosterone production after their cycle. Alll steroids will suppress endogenous test production, which can take months to recover from when the body is focred to try and recover without assistance. By using a drug like Clomid post-cycle, you can expidite recovery significantly and in turn, you will retain a larger portion of your gains, as the body's hormonal environment will be normailized more quickly.

So, you should be using at least some type of PCT drug post-cycle.
 
Mike Arnold said:
20-40 mg per day is ideal.

The reason you see guys adding stuff like Clomid is because they are tring to recover their natural testosterone production after their cycle. Alll steroids will suppress endogenous test production, which can take months to recover from when the body is focred to try and recover without assistance. By using a drug like Clomid post-cycle, you can expidite recovery significantly and in turn, you will retain a larger portion of your gains, as the body's hormonal environment will be normailized more quickly.

So, you should be using at least some type of PCT drug post-cycle.
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Thank you very much; is there any standard Clomid that most people recommend as high-quality, with a good reputation?
 
I believe I will be using CEM-Products liquid clomid.

On the recommended cycle of MSten-RX, when should you start taking PCTs? The second 4 weeks, or after the second 4 weeks?


FIRST 4 WEEKS:
M-STEN Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap taken two times daily)
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

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LAST 4 WEEKS:
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)
 
Using a SERM during PCT is never a bad idea, clomid works best for me.
 
Thanks everyone.

Right now I am taking the doses as:

Morning:
1 cap Msten
1 cap Anabolic MatriX
1 cap Ultra Male

Post workout/afternoon:
2 caps Advanced Cycle Support

Evening:
1 cap Msten
1 cap Anabolic Matrix
1 cap ultra male


Should I be taking anything differently (ie both caps at the same time for anything) or is my method okay?
 
BlasTech said:
Thanks everyone.

Right now I am taking the doses as:

Morning:
1 cap Msten
1 cap Anabolic MatriX
1 cap Ultra Male

Post workout/afternoon:
2 caps Advanced Cycle Support

Evening:
1 cap Msten
1 cap Anabolic Matrix
1 cap ultra male


Should I be taking anything differently (ie both caps at the same time for anything) or is my method okay?
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Personally, I'd recommend you save the Ultra Male for PCT, and bump the Anabolic Matrix to 3-4 caps ed (4 esp if it's a 4wk cycle).

You're more than likely consuming TOO MUCH Ultra Male. It will suppress your natural testosterone levels faster than need be. 2 caps of Ultra Male daily is reserved for those who weigh OVER 250lbs.
 
adrenolin said:
Personally, I'd recommend you save the Ultra Male for PCT, and bump the Anabolic Matrix to 3-4 caps ed (4 esp if it's a 4wk cycle).

You're more than likely consuming TOO MUCH Ultra Male. It will suppress your natural testosterone levels faster than need be. 2 caps of Ultra Male daily is reserved for those who weigh OVER 250lbs.
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Thank you very much. Should I even be taking one then? Or should I cut it out completely. I am 26 and weigh 210 pounds.
 
BlasTech said:
Thank you very much; is there any standard Clomid that most people recommend as high-quality, with a good reputation?
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Sure...pharm-grade clomid...never any complaints. There are a million peptide and research companies out there selling Clomid...some is good...some is not.

Honestly, for a simple 4 week oral cycle, you can recover just fine using a combination of Ultra Male & E-Control. In addition, you won't have to concern yourself with whether or not the products are real or properly dosed. With IML, you can know without any doubt that every product is 100% potent and pure.
 
BlasTech said:
I believe I will be using CEM-Products liquid clomid.

On the recommended cycle of MSten-RX, when should you start taking PCTs? The second 4 weeks, or after the second 4 weeks?


FIRST 4 WEEKS:
M-STEN Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap taken two times daily)
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

----------------------------------

LAST 4 WEEKS:
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)
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I like the quality and pricing from hardcorepeptides. Just my preference. Glad to see u on board with iml

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Hey all, everything is going very well so far. My PCT begins April 19th.

I have on hand for PCT:

Liquid Clomid from CEM
Anabolic-Matrix Rx
Ultra Male Rx
Advanced Cycle Support Rx
E-Control Rx


For the standard PCT:

Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)

What doses of my SERM should I add to this? I have heard/read various different things, as usual.
 
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