The money is not really the issue. I just would have hated to blow 350 on a massive stack and have side effects and stop taking the stuff and be out 350 and in worse shape than before. Thanks a lot for the advice. Have any recommendations for a methylated product that would be good for me? Also i have heard of people having no harm done from their cycle, but then messing them selves up on there pct from strong estrogen blockers. Would novadex be a safe e blocker to go with? Thanks!
Botomline:
1.) The side effects are blown out of proportion
2.) All of the IML products are safe when used responsibly.
...period.
AI's aren't going to "mess-up" anyone during PCT. Even the worst side effects an AI can cause are relatively mild and temporary, so there is no "messing yourself up" by using an OTC AI during PCT.
If you want to make great gains, while not spending excessive amounts of cash, choose a single methyl and preferably 2 PCT drugs. DMZ 3.0 will provide the best gains, followed by M-sten, followed by Epi-tren. Choose one of them and run it for 4-6 weeks. Nice and simple.
For PCT, choose one SERM and one AI. That combination is ideal, as both of them will increase T production...and the AI will help keep estrogen levels under control while test levels go back up. That AI is important because it prevents estrogen-induced negative feedback from occuring as T levels rise during PCT. When you use a SERM alone for PCT, T levels rise, but so do estrogen levels...and as soon as estrogen levels rise, the pituitary senses this and stops or slows down LH production, which translates into slowed or stopped T production. By using an AI in concert with a SERM (I prefer Clomid, especially when an AI is used with it, you will increase T production to a maximum, which is exactly what we are trying to accomplish during PCT.
You say money is not the issue. If so, you can either do what is best for you and follow this advice...or you can write it off as ncorrect and continue asking others in the open forum, while continuing to get the wrong answers.
I recommend Cycle Support during every cycle for obvious reasons. Do you "need" it? No, not if you are only planning on runningonly a few cycles and quitting, but if you are going to be regularly using AAS over the years, then you should be using it. Personally, I use it all the time, but I also use AAS regularly.
As for other on-cycle products, you can add other things to your single methyl, but how much you will benfit from it will vary. For example, if you are using DMZ 3.0...it is so powerfull that you should not expect to measurably increase your gains no matter what you add to it. If using weaker stuff, combining products will be of more value. If making gains is your #1 goal, then running a single string methyl at optimal dosages is best, which includes DMZ 3.0, M-sten, and Epi-tren. With DMZ 3.0, optimal dosing is 2 caps daily. With M-sten, optimal dosing it is 3-4 caps daily. With Epi-tren (the 3rd strongest IML muscle builder), optimal dosing is 4-5 caps daily. In this context, the word "optimal" is used to describe a dosing amount for the
average user. Technically, I cannot recommend anything beyond label recommendations, so do not take that as a recommendation. Rather, I am simply teling you what has been proven safe and effective in a large number of users for each of the steroids in these products.
By the way, Nolvadex doesn't doesn't stop estrogen levels from rising. It simply pervents estrogen from attaching to certain receptor sites. Systematic estrogen levels remain unaffected, which means the brain-pituitary will still pick up on it...and as stated above, this elevated estrogen level will cause negative feedback and the subsequent suppression of T production. Nolvadex will still work for PCT, just not as well as a SERM and an AI.
