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I'm 25, 6'00 and 200 lbs. I'm pudgy compared to what I was when I was 19 I had a 6 pack and was 180 lbs. I've tried every over the countet Supp out there and have never truly gotten the results I wanted. I want bulk and then cut so that I can maintain 200lbs..is iron mag the right company and product line for me. I lift work out 4 days a week and cardio on sat. I eat moderately clean but I do love my meat Italian foods.. I was looking at the super Dmz stack for bulking offered on the website but not sure if ifs worth the money.. also can any normal guys post testimonials on here that rant pro body builders? I would like to see what it does for the average Joe like me.

Thanks guys
 
Average joe here... products are legit. Best I have used. You do need good clean diet and lots of protein. You wont be disappointed.
 
Do you happen to have any pre and post pics.. does the stack have what I need for Oct and to stop gyno
 
yes it does,
anabolic matrix
ultramalerx
econtrol
adavance cycle support, clean diet and hardcore training with dmz... damn.. ull see SIZE
 
I guess my next question is which stack is better every one seems to use the super Dmz and dot the methadrol.. which would you guys suggest for my goals
 
I'm on metha-drol right now and i LOVE it. If your looking to bulk, metha-drol is the way to go. I'm 15 days into my cycle. I started at 204lbs and as of this mourning i weighed 214. The strength increases are crazy. Best legal compound i have ever used. Its just as if not more powerful than dbol!
 
Cool. If any one else has some input please share.. thank you for the responses.
 
Methadrol will give you the best results, however it is a little harder on your body. If you haven't run gear or done any PS's or PH's before, you should probably start out with dmz. Especially if you dont know if you're prone to gyno or not yet since it has been known to affect gyno-sensitive users in some cases. be careful and do your research, best of luck
 
What's the best pre cycle defense against gyno? And if I do develop gyno what should i do?
 
Use an AI, and if it gets real bad, get some letro..
 
You don't need an ai with dmz or meth-drol as neither one will convert to estrogen. The only way you are going to get gyno would be from prolactin issues from metha-drol and in most people its not a problem. I have never heard of anyone getting gyno from dmz although i suppose its possible in EXTREMELY sensitive users. Best insurance policy is to keep nolva on hand just in case.
 
Just checked front page didnt see that it doesnt convert to estrogen.. makes sense.
thanks
 
Thank you guys for all the input and help. Its really good to see a community willing to walk the newbie through things.. and all your input is really helping me with researching what's going to be best for me
 
I'm trying to get my self prepared for this cycle and I'm wondering what you guys say the best training split is for 3 or 4 day routines.. also how long should I lift heavy vs cross training etc..
 
Cross what? I never heard of that! I always lift heavy and my split currently looks like this:
1 chest and tri
2 back and bi
3 legs
4 shoulders

Abs every other day, cardio 20 minutes each day, days off as needed.
 
irishcop said:
I'm trying to get my self prepared for this cycle and I'm wondering what you guys say the best training split is for 3 or 4 day routines.. also how long should I lift heavy vs cross training etc..
Monday, Wednesday, Friday

Chest:
Bench press ? 5 sets, 6-10 reps
Flat bench flies ? 5 sets, 6-10 reps
Incline bench press ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Cable crossovers ? 6 sets, 10-12 reps
Dips ? 5 sets, to failure
Dumbbell pullovers ? 5 sets, 10-12 reps

Back:
Front wide-grip chin-ups ? 6 sets, to failure
T-bar rows ? 5 sets, 6-10 reps
Seated pulley rows ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
One-arm dumbbell rows ? 5 sets, 6-10 reps
Straight-leg deadlifts ? 6 sets, 15 reps

Legs:
Squats ? 6 sets, 8-12 reps
Leg presses ? 6 sets, 8-12 reps
Leg extensions ? 6 sets, 12-15 reps
Leg curls ? 6 sets, 10-12 reps
Barbell lunges ? 5 sets, 15 reps

Calves:
Standing calf raises -10 sets, 10 reps
Seated calf raises ? 8 sets, 15 reps
One-legged calf raises (holding dumbbells) ? 6 sets,12 reps

Forearms:
Wrist curls (forearms on knees) ? 4 sets, 10 reps
Reverse barbell curls ? 4 sets, 8 reps
Wright roller machine ? to failure

Abs:
Nonstop instinct training for 30 minutes

Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday



Biceps:
Barbell curls ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Seated dumbbell curls ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Dumbbell concentration curls ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps

Triceps:
Close-grip bench presses (for the all three heads) ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Pushdowns (exterior head) ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Barbell French presses (interior head) ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
One-arm dumbbell triceps extensions (exterior head) ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps

Shoulders:
Seated barbell presses ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Lateral raises (standing) ? 6 sets, 6-10 reps
Rear-delt lateral raises ? 5 sets, 6-10 reps
Cable lateral raises ? 5 sets, 10-12 reps

Calves and Forearms:
Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday Abs:
Same as Monday, Wednesday and Friday.
 
Cross what? I never heard of that! I always lift heavy and my split currently looks like this:
1 chest and tri
2 back and bi
3 legs
4 shoulders

Abs every other day, cardio 20 minutes each day, days off as needed.

^^^ This is my split as well.
 

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