Epi Tren/4 Andro Log (First Cycle)

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BenJie

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Hey guys. I will be starting my first ever cycle tomorrow as I have pretty much all my needed products except I haven't received my second bottle of 4 Andro yet which really isn't a big deal since I will not be using 4 andro until the start of my 3rd week and finish it off at my 6th week.

This will be a 6 week run followed by my PCT.

My cycle will look like something of the sort:


Weeks 1-6
Epi-tren 3 caps daily(2AM/1PM) I may bump it to 4 caps
Advanced Cycle Support 2 caps daily


Weeks 3-6
4 Andro 3/4 caps Daily (2AM/2PM)


Weeks 7-10: Nolvadex @ 20 mg/daily.
weeks 7-10: ACS @ 2 caps daily
Weeks 8-11: E-Control @ 3 caps/daily (before bed).


I am wanting to gain 8-15lbs honestly which I hope isn't unrealistic for a first cycle and shed some fat possibly. My question is does this look like proper dosing for 4 andro and what should be an idea of my diet to do this?


height: 5'10"
weight: 175-177lbs fluctuates


My current ratio for macros is
carbs:338
protein: 275
fats: 50


2902 calories right now. Will up the calories slowly to limit fat gain since I actually want to lose body fat while gaining some size.

Ill post a couple of my stats real quick. Just what I feel most determined to beat especially since I have been working out only for 2.5 years really and only 1.5 as steady as I should have.

Incline dumbbell press- 90lbs for 6
Flat db - 100lbs for 6 or 110 for 3
military shoulder press 135lbs for 6
decline hammer press - 3 plates each side for 8
squat - 275 for 5 ( before I cut and I want to surpass this by several reps or more weight )
deadlift I have no idea
flat bb- 210 for 4 (shoulders have been a problem which is why I can't do bb often)
incline bb - 185 for 5
leg press - 918lbs
leg ext - 190 for 6
leg curl 130 for 6
skullcrusher- 95lbs for 6
vbar ext- almost maxing out the machine for 8
Lat pull down- 160 for 6

My routine will be this:
chest/back - mass/volume
legs
shoulders/arms
rest
chest/back - contraction/progression
legs
shoulders/arms

I personally respond better to this than I have to a classic bodybuilder split. I also love PHAT by Layne Norton. The classic bb split has caused me to hardly gain the weight/strength even when consuming a 700kcal surplus.

If I had the chance I would have logged msten which is what I really want to do but I just didn't have the funds to add it to this. Maybe next cycle (After December)
 
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Thanks guys! Just took my first dosage I'd ACS, epi tren, and taurine.
 
Spread that E-Control dose out in PCT (AM, Mid-day, PM). Oh yeah, following! :D
 
ebfitness said:
Spread that E-Control dose out in PCT (AM, Mid-day, PM). Oh yeah, following! :D
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Haha I didn't see that before bed part. That was suppose to be next to nolvadex :P and I have a mental pump from the excitement
 
Day 2:
No significant sides or postitives yet. I do not expect much till 2-3 weeks in. Finished shoulders/arms. Felt pretty good. Slightly hungrier than usual
 
Day 3: Not much to report but keeping this updated daily keeps me motivated!
 
Day 4: Increased weight by 2 lbs. I have some increased strength but nothing to the extreme. I was doing the ISO lateral hammer strength with 3 45s on each side for 6-7 reps. 6 good reps. Added a 25lbs on each side and did 4 reps which was surprising to me. Did 160 on lat pull down for 6 reps which is an increase of 2 reps from what I could before. Did incline hammer strength and did 2 45s each side for an easy 6 reps which is good because I lost all strength on this exercise when I cut from 189 to 175ish.

Day 5: Going on to shoulders/arms. Will update later
 
Day 5: First set on BB shoulder press was 115lbs 8 reps
2nd set - 135lbs for 7
3rd set - 145lbs for 5 reps

Great workout with some increased strength
 
It has been about 4 weeks on Thursday. I have experienced leaning out while gaining some decent size. I have been told the gains usually didn't start till week 3 and I'm not disappointed. I have easily gained about 7ish-8ishlbs while leans down substantially. My abs and striations have been so much more visible. My strength has also gone up like no bodies business! I plan on doing an Msten cycle near November along with 4 andro and possibly epi tren! I have no idea what all I plan to do and if you want to be of some help by all means! I want to gain muscle like a lot next cycle so if you can give me some cycles or tips hit me up!
 
Finished the cycle and all I can say is holy balls. This was a great freaking cycle. Arms grew half an inch maybe an inch. Got hella lean and really fucking strong. I was barely able to squat 275 for 6 before the cycle and last week I squatted 315 for 5 all the way to 90 degrees. Got 100lb DBS on incline for 5. It was amazing. I can't wait till msten...
 
BenJie said:
Finished the cycle and all I can say is holy balls. This was a great freaking cycle. Arms grew half an inch maybe an inch. Got hella lean and really fucking strong. I was barely able to squat 275 for 6 before the cycle and last week I squatted 315 for 5 all the way to 90 degrees. Got 100lb DBS on incline for 5. It was amazing. I can't wait till msten...
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Awesome bro thats just excellent! Your gonna kill msten!
 
BenJie said:
Finished the cycle and all I can say is holy balls. This was a great freaking cycle. Arms grew half an inch maybe an inch. Got hella lean and really fucking strong. I was barely able to squat 275 for 6 before the cycle and last week I squatted 315 for 5 all the way to 90 degrees. Got 100lb DBS on incline for 5. It was amazing. I can't wait till msten...
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Sweeeeet!
 
BenJie said:
Finished the cycle and all I can say is holy balls. This was a great freaking cycle. Arms grew half an inch maybe an inch. Got hella lean and really fucking strong. I was barely able to squat 275 for 6 before the cycle and last week I squatted 315 for 5 all the way to 90 degrees. Got 100lb DBS on incline for 5. It was amazing. I can't wait till msten...
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Nice work dude! What were your cals like through your cycle, and did you cut up whilst gaining mass?
 
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