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Awsome results man. I've been researching Super DMZ 2.0 and have heard great things. I'm planning on starting in 13 days and will be ordering soon. As of now heres what I've decided on
4 weeks On Cycle:
2 caps Super dmz 2.0 (1 in AM & 1 PM)
Taurine (for lower back pumps)
Fish oil
Advanced cycle support (2 cap)
Ultra male rx (1 cap)
4 weeks PCT:
Advanced cycle support (2 caps)
Nolvadex (20mg/4 weeks)
Ultra male rx (1 cap)
Anabolic matrix (1-2 caps)
Not planning on going with an E-blocker for On cycle but if I start developing gyno I will order some. One of my other big concerns is testicular atrophy, @fierce1 have you experienced any problems with either of these problems? I expect the boys to shrink a bit but I'm hoping not anything noticeable or attention drawing. Any input or suggestions from the moderators is always appreciated too!
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Ok for me , I run test also the gel do I don't run Nolva at all, or Ultra Male, if you not running a gel which is only 24 hr half life or a cyp or prop which half life is 10 days , you should not have a shrinking issue, now since I'm running a test I have seen them shrink a little but that doesn't bother me , I'll be running test forever so if I ever get off of it they go back to normal , I don't need big balls that doesn't bother me. Now I think the super DMz 3.0 is awesome potent product. I don't think it will cause shrinkage at all.. Now I don't use Tuarine I'm use to back pumps and stretching and a lot of hydration will take care of that for (me) speaking.. Now I definetly run the E-control on PCT even on test , I refuse to chance gyno.. On cycle I run 3 caps a day of ACS I don't like organ strain .. I would let ebfitness or heavy comment further on this...keep Nolva on hand most def. But order the e-control safe than sorry bro ..
Will post todays day in a few my weight 190.9
my diet is always on point and I train hard same time everyday ,,
what's your age weight cycle history.. 3.0 is hardcore shit bro..??
busy day no time to spell check
Will post todays day in a few my weight 190.9
my diet is always on point and I train hard same time everyday ,,
what's your age weight cycle history.. 3.0 is hardcore shit bro..??
busy day no time to spell check
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And there you have it..
Day 24
Legs, Obliques and cardio
weight 190.8 up 15.9 lbs.
Now after several back surgeries I do legs only to keep core strong. I do basics that it, what I need. I do not overdue legs, this works for me, anyway the rest of my execises pedal to the metal..haha
Leg Press FOM
135x 20x1
225x20x1
315x15x1
405x12x1
455x10x1
Felt great no issues, probably could have added another 100 lbs easy and did 10 but I don't play around with these.
Squats
135x15x1
155x12x1
185x12x1
205x12x1
Could have did more strength was ridiculous today.
Calf Press
190x25x4
Obliques
Hanging knee raise to side
Lt 10x2
Rt 10x2
Oblique crunches
20x3
Cardio 20 minutes same as usual 10.0 incline with varying speeds every minute 3.0-3.5 for 20 minutes..
Tomorrow is shoulders and abs day, my favorite.... Gonna hit it hard
Peace
Legs, Obliques and cardio
weight 190.8 up 15.9 lbs.
Now after several back surgeries I do legs only to keep core strong. I do basics that it, what I need. I do not overdue legs, this works for me, anyway the rest of my execises pedal to the metal..haha
Leg Press FOM
135x 20x1
225x20x1
315x15x1
405x12x1
455x10x1
Felt great no issues, probably could have added another 100 lbs easy and did 10 but I don't play around with these.
Squats
135x15x1
155x12x1
185x12x1
205x12x1
Could have did more strength was ridiculous today.
Calf Press
190x25x4
Obliques
Hanging knee raise to side
Lt 10x2
Rt 10x2
Oblique crunches
20x3
Cardio 20 minutes same as usual 10.0 incline with varying speeds every minute 3.0-3.5 for 20 minutes..
Tomorrow is shoulders and abs day, my favorite.... Gonna hit it hard
Peace
Day 25 Super Dmz 3.0
Weight 189.1
Shoulders my favorite day I work them very hard
Military press
135x20
185x10
175x9
135x10x 1 pause reps
Super sets
Behind head 60 lb straight bar
Pull to chin EZ curl bar 60lb
Lateral raises straight bar 40lb
X3supersets 1 minute breaks
Super set shrugs dumbells
60lb x12x4. 5 second holds
35x12x4 roll front to back
Steering wheels
25 lb plate 25x2
50 lb x1 burn out
75 yard slow walk with a 45 lb plate in each hand x 3
Shoulder press hammer strength
Each arm
60x20x1
100x12x1
120x5 x1 each arm that's a new record
100x9x1
Done with shoulders
Abs
Abdominals pushing 130 lbs on press machine 20x3
Ab-x
50x1
Decline bench crunches holding straight 40 lb bar arms locked push to ceiling
15x1
14x1
11x1
And done , time for cardio
20 minutes 10.0 incline varying speeds 3.5-3.0 every minute
Up calories about 400 last 2 days in a row, ..
Back to normal calories
Tomorrow chest day 2 of 6 day weeks will try to max 265 IRM bench tomorrow maybe throw a few supp exercises in..
Peace
Weight 189.1
Shoulders my favorite day I work them very hard
Military press
135x20
185x10
175x9
135x10x 1 pause reps
Super sets
Behind head 60 lb straight bar
Pull to chin EZ curl bar 60lb
Lateral raises straight bar 40lb
X3supersets 1 minute breaks
Super set shrugs dumbells
60lb x12x4. 5 second holds
35x12x4 roll front to back
Steering wheels
25 lb plate 25x2
50 lb x1 burn out
75 yard slow walk with a 45 lb plate in each hand x 3
Shoulder press hammer strength
Each arm
60x20x1
100x12x1
120x5 x1 each arm that's a new record
100x9x1
Done with shoulders
Abs
Abdominals pushing 130 lbs on press machine 20x3
Ab-x
50x1
Decline bench crunches holding straight 40 lb bar arms locked push to ceiling
15x1
14x1
11x1
And done , time for cardio
20 minutes 10.0 incline varying speeds 3.5-3.0 every minute
Up calories about 400 last 2 days in a row, ..
Back to normal calories
Tomorrow chest day 2 of 6 day weeks will try to max 265 IRM bench tomorrow maybe throw a few supp exercises in..
Peace
Day 26
Weight 187.1 up 12.2 pounds
Chest
Flat bench
135x15x1
265x1 NEW IRM up 40 lbs so far
205x9x1
225x4x1
135x.15x1 Pause reps hold
Insanely strong stuff, if you diet and eat right. My sex drive is still through the roof more than 1 time a day that's not common .. Lol
Incline bench 45'
135x15x1
195x5x1
165x10x1
135x 1 pause reps
Decline bench
225x8x1
245x3
205x8x1
Seated cable crossovers each arm lbs
25x15x1 each arm
30x15x1
35x9x1 each arm
25x13x1 Pause hold 2 sec reps
Triceps extension machine
80x20x1
125x15x1
155x8x1
110x15x1 burn out
Getting tired only 3 rest days in last 26, tomorrow only and last rest day
Incline dumbbell flyes each arm lb
35x15x1
40x12x1
45x10x1
50x9x1
What a killer workout today strength in everything..
No cardio and no abs, had to up calories about 400 yesterday and will today.. Reason I can't eat enough don't have a choice so hungry haha
Monday
Day 27 back and abs
Peace
Weight 187.1 up 12.2 pounds
Chest
Flat bench
135x15x1
265x1 NEW IRM up 40 lbs so far
205x9x1
225x4x1
135x.15x1 Pause reps hold
Insanely strong stuff, if you diet and eat right. My sex drive is still through the roof more than 1 time a day that's not common .. Lol
Incline bench 45'
135x15x1
195x5x1
165x10x1
135x 1 pause reps
Decline bench
225x8x1
245x3
205x8x1
Seated cable crossovers each arm lbs
25x15x1 each arm
30x15x1
35x9x1 each arm
25x13x1 Pause hold 2 sec reps
Triceps extension machine
80x20x1
125x15x1
155x8x1
110x15x1 burn out
Getting tired only 3 rest days in last 26, tomorrow only and last rest day
Incline dumbbell flyes each arm lb
35x15x1
40x12x1
45x10x1
50x9x1
What a killer workout today strength in everything..
No cardio and no abs, had to up calories about 400 yesterday and will today.. Reason I can't eat enough don't have a choice so hungry haha
Monday
Day 27 back and abs
Peace
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ebfitness
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Keep pushin', man!
Yah it has been a great ride so far, sorry it's having to end... Nothing like people in the gym saying man you getting big quick... On a killer diet bro, it's all in the food, which it is, lol, one guy offered me money to cook for him for the week too, now that's funny...
ebfitness
Registered
Haha!
Day 27 , 4th and only rest day of this cycle .. Macros up today calories up to about 3200, 300 pro and roughly 350 -380 carbs, just so damn hungry..
weight today 192.2 that's up 17.3 pounds insane!!!!
tomorrow day 28 back and abs..
peace
weight today 192.2 that's up 17.3 pounds insane!!!!
tomorrow day 28 back and abs..
peace
ebfitness
Registered
Then eat!
Day 28
Back , obliques , didn't do abs, and cardio
Weight 187.9
Pull up wide grip BW x10x2
BWx9x1
Bent over dumbbell rows
60x12x3
Neutral grip lat pull downs
100x20x1
160x15x1
200x12x1
120x9x1 pause reps hold
Low cable one hand rows to hip
30x20x1 each arm
50x15x1
65x12x1
72.5x12x1 new records by far
Close grip under hand lat pull downs
120x20x1
200x10x1 bad grip
160x15x1
100x15x1 pause reps hold
Back extensions
190x12x1
170x20x1 failure
Low rows t grip close to stomach
100x20x1
200x15x1
220x10x1 back pumps kicking my butt, never give in, never give up
100x20x1 pause 3 sec hold burn out reps
Mts row one arm at a time
Each arm sep.
60x20x1
70x15x1
80x12x1
90x12x1 record again
Done with a hard back workout, working thru constant pumps on rt side ..
One oblique exer back pumps slowing me down
Oblique crunches each side
20x2
Cardio
20 minute treadmill incline 10.0 speed varying between 3.5..3.0 every minute
Going pick up some taurine, back pumps beyond hydration and stretching ...
Tomorrow chest
Peace
Back , obliques , didn't do abs, and cardio
Weight 187.9
Pull up wide grip BW x10x2
BWx9x1
Bent over dumbbell rows
60x12x3
Neutral grip lat pull downs
100x20x1
160x15x1
200x12x1
120x9x1 pause reps hold
Low cable one hand rows to hip
30x20x1 each arm
50x15x1
65x12x1
72.5x12x1 new records by far
Close grip under hand lat pull downs
120x20x1
200x10x1 bad grip
160x15x1
100x15x1 pause reps hold
Back extensions
190x12x1
170x20x1 failure
Low rows t grip close to stomach
100x20x1
200x15x1
220x10x1 back pumps kicking my butt, never give in, never give up
100x20x1 pause 3 sec hold burn out reps
Mts row one arm at a time
Each arm sep.
60x20x1
70x15x1
80x12x1
90x12x1 record again
Done with a hard back workout, working thru constant pumps on rt side ..
One oblique exer back pumps slowing me down
Oblique crunches each side
20x2
Cardio
20 minute treadmill incline 10.0 speed varying between 3.5..3.0 every minute
Going pick up some taurine, back pumps beyond hydration and stretching ...
Tomorrow chest
Peace
Day 29
Chest day
Weight 188.0 weight still up 13.1 lbs
Diet passed 2 days was off had to up it about 1000 calories roughly to 3500 each day I was so hungry ... Today back to normal diet..
Flat Bench
135x15x1
270x1 missed
225x4x1
205x7x1
185x8x1
Reverse grip bench presses
175x9x1
165x9x1
155x10x1
135x 12 x1 pause reps
Incline #2 bench
3 xWide, 3x middle, 3x close 135lbs x2 sets burn out no rest
Closed grip dumbbell presses incline #2
45x12x1 each arm
50x7x1
45x11x1
Seated cable flyes lbs each arm
25x20x1
35x20x1
30x20x1 burn outs
Abs,
Crunches feet on flat bench super sets with oblique crunches
20x2 20x2 no rest
Cardio 20 minutes incline 10.0 varying speeds 3.5...3.0 each minute
Great workout
Taurine 1000mg capsule 1 pill yesterday and one today back pumps gone before my workout began..
Incredible stuff...
Tomorrow last day of cycle arms Day 30
Will post and then re- cap lifts, pros , cons and what nots
Peace
Chest day
Weight 188.0 weight still up 13.1 lbs
Diet passed 2 days was off had to up it about 1000 calories roughly to 3500 each day I was so hungry ... Today back to normal diet..
Flat Bench
135x15x1
270x1 missed
225x4x1
205x7x1
185x8x1
Reverse grip bench presses
175x9x1
165x9x1
155x10x1
135x 12 x1 pause reps
Incline #2 bench
3 xWide, 3x middle, 3x close 135lbs x2 sets burn out no rest
Closed grip dumbbell presses incline #2
45x12x1 each arm
50x7x1
45x11x1
Seated cable flyes lbs each arm
25x20x1
35x20x1
30x20x1 burn outs
Abs,
Crunches feet on flat bench super sets with oblique crunches
20x2 20x2 no rest
Cardio 20 minutes incline 10.0 varying speeds 3.5...3.0 each minute
Great workout
Taurine 1000mg capsule 1 pill yesterday and one today back pumps gone before my workout began..
Incredible stuff...
Tomorrow last day of cycle arms Day 30
Will post and then re- cap lifts, pros , cons and what nots
Peace
ebfitness
Registered
Looking forward to it!
Day 30
Weight 189.1 up 14.2 pounds
Arms
Chin ups reverse grip close
15x1
12x1
Reverse drag curl Smith machine
95x12x1
85x12x2
75x11x1
Hammer curls Dumbbells
35x12x2
40x10x1
Preacher curls Dumbbells
45x10x2
50x8x1
Standing Dumbbells curls alternating arms fast
35x10x2 each arm
30x15x1 each arm
Rope push downs
30x20x1
50x15x1
50x15x1
Bench dips
BW (189.1)+90 lbsx25x4
30x20x1 pause reps
Serious pump going ..
Under hand pull down across cable machine each arm
20x20x1
25x15x1
30x12x1
20x20x1 burn outs getting tired
Reverse grip straight bar pulldowns
35x20x1
50x15x1
57.5x15x1
35x19x1 slow restricted pause holds
Weighted dips
BW (189.1)+ 45lbx10x1
BW(189.1) + 25lbx9x1
BW(189.1)x15x1
Very tough workout, pushed it hard ..
No cardio today , back to 5 day a week workouts..
Great 30 days
Will post all gains, pros , cons etc over 30 days in a few
Peace
Weight 189.1 up 14.2 pounds
Arms
Chin ups reverse grip close
15x1
12x1
Reverse drag curl Smith machine
95x12x1
85x12x2
75x11x1
Hammer curls Dumbbells
35x12x2
40x10x1
Preacher curls Dumbbells
45x10x2
50x8x1
Standing Dumbbells curls alternating arms fast
35x10x2 each arm
30x15x1 each arm
Rope push downs
30x20x1
50x15x1
50x15x1
Bench dips
BW (189.1)+90 lbsx25x4
30x20x1 pause reps
Serious pump going ..
Under hand pull down across cable machine each arm
20x20x1
25x15x1
30x12x1
20x20x1 burn outs getting tired
Reverse grip straight bar pulldowns
35x20x1
50x15x1
57.5x15x1
35x19x1 slow restricted pause holds
Weighted dips
BW (189.1)+ 45lbx10x1
BW(189.1) + 25lbx9x1
BW(189.1)x15x1
Very tough workout, pushed it hard ..
No cardio today , back to 5 day a week workouts..
Great 30 days
Will post all gains, pros , cons etc over 30 days in a few
Peace
The end of a fun run:
30 day run of Super DMZ 3.0 with test gel at 41mg a aday...
LT Bi-cep before 14 3/4" after 15 1/2" .... 3/4" growth amazing
Rt Bi-cep before 14 1/4" after 15 1/4" 1" growth amazing.
Weight prior 174.9 after today was 189.1 up 14.2 pounds today.. highest weight went up was 18.2 pounds at 193.1 so weight gain of 14.2 pounds
Body fat prior was 10% , i need to go get pincher from buddy and do an after hopefully this week. Very curious on this. Muscle are rock hard. had to buy 6 new shirts old ones do not fit. Gotta love that..
Shoulders did not even show prior now they are jumping out, i have a killer shoulder routine down pat, but what a difference this DMZ made.
My diet was 95% on point in 30 days i had one coke, ate some crawfish and 2 whoppers everything else was on point...
I worked out 26/30 days only taking off Sundays
Did chest 9 days
Back 5 days
Arms 5 days,
Legs 4 days,
Shoulders 4 days
Cardio 20 mnutes each day for 22 days
Abs 12 days 6 minutes max
Obliques 9 days roughly 6 minutes max
Pro's IME of Super DMZ 3.0:
Alpha male feeling still, but absolutely no aggression AT ALL!!!
Flat bench IRM went up 40 lbs from 225-265 ( amazing)
Shoulders super strong miliatry pres went through the roof,
Shoulders are seriously defined.
Bi-ceps are huge
I had strenth gains in EVERY exercise I did. The weight went up with ease. I felt it, but my body pushed hard like most weights were nothing..
I do believe that strength training is mind over body though. You tell yourself you can do it, and you it. Never second guess yourself. Mindset is the key..
Did not need a pre-work out drink at all; matter of fact, I would wake up at 3am ready to train and lay there until daycare opened.lol
My sex drive libido was thru the roof , best I ever had in years every day... I did expect it to crash it never did. For me, my experience with this, and it wasn't necessarily the test. Because I have been on that awhile and never had it this good.
Checked blood pressure weekly absoluelty No issues. Completly normal ranges, heart rate never even got to target rate (144) on a 20 minute 10.0 incline treadmill at 3.5..3.0 decent speeds, never rose above 128 never dropped below 88 and went back to normal almost instantly.
Gained 14.2 pounds in 30 days, not exactly sure how much is muscle need to measure body fat , my macros were pretty much on point, even though I was bulking my calories were not that high 2500 roughly 28/30 days.
I do not see how anyone could cut on Super MDZ 3.0.. but I'm sure if you diet super strict its possible. IDK though, this stuff makes you eat like a horse..
I have small veins, but I did notice an increase in vascularity from not showing at all prior or barely to being able to feel the veins in arms.
Cons of being on Super DMZ 3.0:
Day 2 and 3 had minor headache, I never get headaches nothing to worry about I'm just giving honest feedback.
Last 10 days minor acne on shoulders and arms, but that has a lot to do with the test gel, but there was a slight increase in acne but gone already.
I had 2 days around day 18 or 22 I started getting a little lethargic, now take in account, thats working 2 jobs and working out 6 days a week very hard, so that was expected, not lethargic enough to keep me out the gym , just a little slower getting up. Nothing I could not deal with.
Now Day 27 and Day 28 back pumps were insane almost quit at day 28 and ended cycle, reason i have had 3 spinal fusions in the past and pain felt like i hurt something , but i took the advice of the people like on IML that know their shit, Went and bought the pill taurine took 3 1000mg capsules over 36 houyrs period and pain was gone, back pumps were gone...
Keep Taurine on hand it did not take much for me to get the pumps under control.. Once the taurine worked I knew it was back pumps and eased my mind and went back to lifting hard. No issues there.
Now on Day 4 stomach startring hurting was taking a different milk thistle product first few days. That was not enough felt my liver hurting, rush ordered IML ACT bumped it to 3 a day and by day 6 or 7 was fine. Hydration and food is never a problem with me. Definelty use IML ACT while on this. I was trying to go cheap i just forgot to order it and when my cycle started i thought shit it I feel stomach pain i will order I did and problem solved. Don't go cheap on the organs, and that was not my intention, work had me so busy, and I doubt you can over dose on Milk thistle or even taurine( back pumps)..
Appetite was insane was eating every 2-3 hours and waking in the night to eat atleast 1 sometimes twice..
Upped my water intake to roughly 1.5 gallons a day and a 1/2 gallon of fat free milk a day.
Did wake up firsty 28/30 days to piss atleast twice in the night , the last 2 nights no issues. Got great rest
First 10 days I felt slighly bloated maybe water retention, but the more I worked out and consistent cardio I knew it was not water retension..
Starting E-Control tomorrow 3 ed for a month
will continue PCT ACS at 3 a day for a month
Will continue to stay at 41 mg daily androgel
BCAA's, multi's, Creatine, Nos, Fish oil, fiber that will also continue
Gonna do blood work in about 4-5 weeks, after PCT if all goes well with EVERYTHING, may run another cycle at week 7 with test cyp weekly so i can finish one more before vacation first week of July. this all pending bloodwork and PCT outcome. in the meantime i will be working out back ast 5 days a week, not 6...Diet will stay on point, hoping to keep gains but expecting i will lose some. Hoping to keep size look, more importantly than the strength.. I will probably be going back to faster super sets lifting quicker and ligher then heavy next cycle. This will depend day by on how it goes.
I will try to keep a decent PCT log of gains and losses, progress in recovery etc. Work will determine this. I hope this log helps people decide if this is the right supplement for them or not..
One thing I learned with work i was taking first tablet at 0700 am and second at 5pm , I was waking at 3am ready to roll, I started taking 2nd tablet at 9pm and slept much better so take it late, see if it helps or hurts you. Only you will know this.
This is SUPER Powerful stuff. Stay hydrated, eat eat eat feed your muscles, Eat clean, and I don't care what you take if your diet is sloppy and your routine is whack this aint for you.
Gonna post some pics of today , ck out the defintion of shoulder that did not exist a few weeks ago.
I rate this product a 9/10. i give it an A.......
Would I use it again most definetly, pending lab work
I'm not spell chekcing hope you understand my jibbersish no period, commas in the wrong place etc..I'm a busy person and no time to critique my grammer..
It's been real
Peace.
Pics coming
Please let me know what you guys think any advice on anything would love to hear..
30 day run of Super DMZ 3.0 with test gel at 41mg a aday...
LT Bi-cep before 14 3/4" after 15 1/2" .... 3/4" growth amazing
Rt Bi-cep before 14 1/4" after 15 1/4" 1" growth amazing.
Weight prior 174.9 after today was 189.1 up 14.2 pounds today.. highest weight went up was 18.2 pounds at 193.1 so weight gain of 14.2 pounds
Body fat prior was 10% , i need to go get pincher from buddy and do an after hopefully this week. Very curious on this. Muscle are rock hard. had to buy 6 new shirts old ones do not fit. Gotta love that..
Shoulders did not even show prior now they are jumping out, i have a killer shoulder routine down pat, but what a difference this DMZ made.
My diet was 95% on point in 30 days i had one coke, ate some crawfish and 2 whoppers everything else was on point...
I worked out 26/30 days only taking off Sundays
Did chest 9 days
Back 5 days
Arms 5 days,
Legs 4 days,
Shoulders 4 days
Cardio 20 mnutes each day for 22 days
Abs 12 days 6 minutes max
Obliques 9 days roughly 6 minutes max
Pro's IME of Super DMZ 3.0:
Alpha male feeling still, but absolutely no aggression AT ALL!!!
Flat bench IRM went up 40 lbs from 225-265 ( amazing)
Shoulders super strong miliatry pres went through the roof,
Shoulders are seriously defined.
Bi-ceps are huge
I had strenth gains in EVERY exercise I did. The weight went up with ease. I felt it, but my body pushed hard like most weights were nothing..
I do believe that strength training is mind over body though. You tell yourself you can do it, and you it. Never second guess yourself. Mindset is the key..
Did not need a pre-work out drink at all; matter of fact, I would wake up at 3am ready to train and lay there until daycare opened.lol
My sex drive libido was thru the roof , best I ever had in years every day... I did expect it to crash it never did. For me, my experience with this, and it wasn't necessarily the test. Because I have been on that awhile and never had it this good.
Checked blood pressure weekly absoluelty No issues. Completly normal ranges, heart rate never even got to target rate (144) on a 20 minute 10.0 incline treadmill at 3.5..3.0 decent speeds, never rose above 128 never dropped below 88 and went back to normal almost instantly.
Gained 14.2 pounds in 30 days, not exactly sure how much is muscle need to measure body fat , my macros were pretty much on point, even though I was bulking my calories were not that high 2500 roughly 28/30 days.
I do not see how anyone could cut on Super MDZ 3.0.. but I'm sure if you diet super strict its possible. IDK though, this stuff makes you eat like a horse..
I have small veins, but I did notice an increase in vascularity from not showing at all prior or barely to being able to feel the veins in arms.
Cons of being on Super DMZ 3.0:
Day 2 and 3 had minor headache, I never get headaches nothing to worry about I'm just giving honest feedback.
Last 10 days minor acne on shoulders and arms, but that has a lot to do with the test gel, but there was a slight increase in acne but gone already.
I had 2 days around day 18 or 22 I started getting a little lethargic, now take in account, thats working 2 jobs and working out 6 days a week very hard, so that was expected, not lethargic enough to keep me out the gym , just a little slower getting up. Nothing I could not deal with.
Now Day 27 and Day 28 back pumps were insane almost quit at day 28 and ended cycle, reason i have had 3 spinal fusions in the past and pain felt like i hurt something , but i took the advice of the people like on IML that know their shit, Went and bought the pill taurine took 3 1000mg capsules over 36 houyrs period and pain was gone, back pumps were gone...
Keep Taurine on hand it did not take much for me to get the pumps under control.. Once the taurine worked I knew it was back pumps and eased my mind and went back to lifting hard. No issues there.
Now on Day 4 stomach startring hurting was taking a different milk thistle product first few days. That was not enough felt my liver hurting, rush ordered IML ACT bumped it to 3 a day and by day 6 or 7 was fine. Hydration and food is never a problem with me. Definelty use IML ACT while on this. I was trying to go cheap i just forgot to order it and when my cycle started i thought shit it I feel stomach pain i will order I did and problem solved. Don't go cheap on the organs, and that was not my intention, work had me so busy, and I doubt you can over dose on Milk thistle or even taurine( back pumps)..
Appetite was insane was eating every 2-3 hours and waking in the night to eat atleast 1 sometimes twice..
Upped my water intake to roughly 1.5 gallons a day and a 1/2 gallon of fat free milk a day.
Did wake up firsty 28/30 days to piss atleast twice in the night , the last 2 nights no issues. Got great rest
First 10 days I felt slighly bloated maybe water retention, but the more I worked out and consistent cardio I knew it was not water retension..
Starting E-Control tomorrow 3 ed for a month
will continue PCT ACS at 3 a day for a month
Will continue to stay at 41 mg daily androgel
BCAA's, multi's, Creatine, Nos, Fish oil, fiber that will also continue
Gonna do blood work in about 4-5 weeks, after PCT if all goes well with EVERYTHING, may run another cycle at week 7 with test cyp weekly so i can finish one more before vacation first week of July. this all pending bloodwork and PCT outcome. in the meantime i will be working out back ast 5 days a week, not 6...Diet will stay on point, hoping to keep gains but expecting i will lose some. Hoping to keep size look, more importantly than the strength.. I will probably be going back to faster super sets lifting quicker and ligher then heavy next cycle. This will depend day by on how it goes.
I will try to keep a decent PCT log of gains and losses, progress in recovery etc. Work will determine this. I hope this log helps people decide if this is the right supplement for them or not..
One thing I learned with work i was taking first tablet at 0700 am and second at 5pm , I was waking at 3am ready to roll, I started taking 2nd tablet at 9pm and slept much better so take it late, see if it helps or hurts you. Only you will know this.
This is SUPER Powerful stuff. Stay hydrated, eat eat eat feed your muscles, Eat clean, and I don't care what you take if your diet is sloppy and your routine is whack this aint for you.
Gonna post some pics of today , ck out the defintion of shoulder that did not exist a few weeks ago.
I rate this product a 9/10. i give it an A.......
Would I use it again most definetly, pending lab work
I'm not spell chekcing hope you understand my jibbersish no period, commas in the wrong place etc..I'm a busy person and no time to critique my grammer..
It's been real
Peace.
Pics coming
Please let me know what you guys think any advice on anything would love to hear..
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Great, in-depth review, man!
Day 1 PCT....
Weight 191.1 up 16.2 lbs
Still very strong still breaking barriers
Leg press
135x20x1
225x20x1
315x15x1
405x12x1
505x10x1 new record
Squats
95x20x1
135x15x1
185x12x1
225x8x1 new Record
Calf extensions
150x25x1
200x22x1
250x18x1
300x9x1 new record
Leg extension
70x20x1
100x20x1
130x15x1
160x10x1 new record
Seated leg curls
70x20x1
100x15x1
120x12x1
140x8x1 new record
Decline bench crunches 45' angle
25x2
Hanging oblique twist
10x2 on each side
Cardio
20 minutes incline 10.0 varying speeds 3.5, 3.0.....
Peace.....
Weight 191.1 up 16.2 lbs
Still very strong still breaking barriers
Leg press
135x20x1
225x20x1
315x15x1
405x12x1
505x10x1 new record
Squats
95x20x1
135x15x1
185x12x1
225x8x1 new Record
Calf extensions
150x25x1
200x22x1
250x18x1
300x9x1 new record
Leg extension
70x20x1
100x20x1
130x15x1
160x10x1 new record
Seated leg curls
70x20x1
100x15x1
120x12x1
140x8x1 new record
Decline bench crunches 45' angle
25x2
Hanging oblique twist
10x2 on each side
Cardio
20 minutes incline 10.0 varying speeds 3.5, 3.0.....
Peace.....
Thanks Eb
great work man! keep it up during pct
thanks
Thanks chez
Day 2 PCT
Weight 191.2 up 16.2 lbs
Shoulders/abs/cardio
Military press barbell
135x15x1
175x4x1
155x9x1
145x9x1
Slightly weaker on 175
Superset
60 lb straight bar beyond head up
60lb EZ bar close grip lift to chin
40 lb straight bar swing up arms straight out
Ridiculous pump going now
Steering wheels 25 lb plate
50x2
Shrugs 60 lb dumbbell 5 second holds 12x 4
Superset with 35 lb Dumbbells shrugs rolling shoulders front to back. 12x4
75 yard slow walks with 2 45 lb plates x3
People blocking machines frustrating ...
Strength still on point everywhere else
Shoulder press mts each arm
60x20x1
110x7x1
90x9x1
80x8x1
Pump definetly there, alpha male feeling still there
Ab coaster with 10 lb plate
20x3 with 3 second hold in up position
Hanging straight leg raises toes out
12x2
Cardio 20 minute 10.0 incline varying speeds 3.5..3.0 every minute
Great workout love shoulders day
Probably going back to 5 days a week workout so Monday will post. Unless I go tomorrow and hit chest again
Peace
Weight 191.2 up 16.2 lbs
Shoulders/abs/cardio
Military press barbell
135x15x1
175x4x1
155x9x1
145x9x1
Slightly weaker on 175
Superset
60 lb straight bar beyond head up
60lb EZ bar close grip lift to chin
40 lb straight bar swing up arms straight out
Ridiculous pump going now
Steering wheels 25 lb plate
50x2
Shrugs 60 lb dumbbell 5 second holds 12x 4
Superset with 35 lb Dumbbells shrugs rolling shoulders front to back. 12x4
75 yard slow walks with 2 45 lb plates x3
People blocking machines frustrating ...
Strength still on point everywhere else
Shoulder press mts each arm
60x20x1
110x7x1
90x9x1
80x8x1
Pump definetly there, alpha male feeling still there
Ab coaster with 10 lb plate
20x3 with 3 second hold in up position
Hanging straight leg raises toes out
12x2
Cardio 20 minute 10.0 incline varying speeds 3.5..3.0 every minute
Great workout love shoulders day
Probably going back to 5 days a week workout so Monday will post. Unless I go tomorrow and hit chest again
Peace
Day 6 PCT, strength still there did back and bi's yesterday and chest and tri's today with cardio in each. gotta a busy week ahead. Had soreness in rt nipple at day 4 , being on the TRT, i was only gonna run the tamoxefin if needed, but still i had the tamoxefin citrate from hardcore peptides on hand. I did not think I would need it , glad I have 3 bottles on hand. Yesterday rt nipple hurt like fire, Im on second day of 20 mg dose , still sore gonna run it a few weeks to stay safe, it should be fine, other than that looking forward to my next run, still strong, weight still up, sex drive still there.
Peace
Peace
ebfitness
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Yeah, I'd just run the nolva till it clears up, followed up with an AI for a few weeks to prevent rebound.
Pct day 8
Weight down to 186.7 lbs still up 12.8 pounds but looking leaner ... Did legs today leg press up to 575x8x1 that's a new PR, however having screws in my spine, I usually don't push the legs days, that being said the DMz Definitely motivated me during and off cycle to push harder in areas that needed it.
For that I am grateful! Also bumped my squat up was able to do 275x8x1 on smith machine safely..
As far as rt nipple novaldex has that under control.. Gonna continue another few weeks.
Think I'm gonna run cyp starting in 2 weeks for 14 weeks pin every 4 days and add DMZ into the mix also later on. Was gonna run spawn next go round but really liking the DMZ ...
Beast mode soon , gonna keep running the Nolva , I'm thinking if I bump to cyp versus gel to 250 mg pinning every 4 days, finish Nolva for 3 more weeks hopefully will not have another itchy flare up ...
Eb or heavy iron what you think?
Eb will I need to follow up with an AI if I go this route ??? And bump to cyp...
Libido down a little not much dmz was like Viagra freaking loved it..
Peace
Weight down to 186.7 lbs still up 12.8 pounds but looking leaner ... Did legs today leg press up to 575x8x1 that's a new PR, however having screws in my spine, I usually don't push the legs days, that being said the DMz Definitely motivated me during and off cycle to push harder in areas that needed it.
For that I am grateful! Also bumped my squat up was able to do 275x8x1 on smith machine safely..
As far as rt nipple novaldex has that under control.. Gonna continue another few weeks.
Think I'm gonna run cyp starting in 2 weeks for 14 weeks pin every 4 days and add DMZ into the mix also later on. Was gonna run spawn next go round but really liking the DMZ ...
Beast mode soon , gonna keep running the Nolva , I'm thinking if I bump to cyp versus gel to 250 mg pinning every 4 days, finish Nolva for 3 more weeks hopefully will not have another itchy flare up ...
Eb or heavy iron what you think?
Eb will I need to follow up with an AI if I go this route ??? And bump to cyp...
Libido down a little not much dmz was like Viagra freaking loved it..
Peace
ebfitness
Registered
An AI after nolva is just a precaution to prevent estro rebound. I would, and have, used AIs like E-Control or Aromasin (Exemestane) which also don't produce a rebound after use.
