Super-DMZ 2.0 help?

[crazygains]

I've been lurking the forums for a while reading up on some other threads, and decided to make my own account to ask some questions about the super DMZ 2.0 stack. I ordered the complete stack from orbitnutrition (was right after IronMagLabs discontinued the product) I've noticed all of the members of this forum are very nice and helpful. Would appreciate some advice.

PRODUCTS included:
Super-DMZ Rx - 1 bottle
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 1 bottle
Ultra Male Rx - 1 bottle
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 1 bottle
E-Control Rx - 1 bottle

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FIRST 4 WEEKS:
Super-DMZ Rx Rx - 2 caps daily (1 cap AM / 1 cap PM)
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily

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LAST 4 WEEKS:
Ultra Male Rx - 1 cap daily
Anabolic-Matrix Rx - 2 caps daily with food
Advanced Cycle Support Rx - 2 caps daily
E-Control Rx - 3 caps daily (last 3 weeks)
I sat on the bottles for a little over a week before deciding to use them, started taking them today. (haven't noticed much but this is my first day on cycle, so that's expected.)
little bit about me
height 6'0
weight ~ 180 (fluctuates a lot)
bf ~ last time I checked it was like 15%.. (trying to cut it down to ~8%)
age 22

Over the summer I took this PH called Goliath (30mg superdrol / 30mg epistane a day). 13 days into my cycle I had this awful feeling of dementia.. was awful and I was shaking and had to have a friend drive me to the hospital. I'm convinced that this wasn't the Goliath, but rather the drugs/alcohol I was consuming... I told myself to lay off alcohol, but caved in. Drank probly half the days I was on the cycle. On the 13th day I was feeling good and took 30mg of oxy. Still felt good throughout the day until I started drinking, only had like 2 beers. I felt tired and drove home. Started to get that dementia/anxiety soon after and I thought I should smoke some weed to calm myself down. (about 2 hours after that I knew something was wrong.) I got bloods done and everything was fine. Liver was perfect (shocked to hear that lol). Had some high cholestrol (not too bad) and since I didn't have a PCT yet, I just stopped cold turkey and my testosterone came back at like 48 (reallllllly low). I've gotten my test levels checked twice since then and they've gone back to normal.

I'm trying to be more careful this time around and am anxious to get good results.

List of other supplements I'm taking
Multi AM/PM
Fish Oil
Extra milk-thistle (300mg everyday in addition to the milk thistle in the ACS)
Joint support maintenance
havok (pre-workout)
60mg of Ritalin LA (perscribed for my ADHD)


questions

1) I read the back of the bottles and they all said take w/ food except the ACS, should I take the Anabolic Matrix and ACS at the same time in the day, like two at a time, or spread them out (1 AM / 1 PM)
2) I'm thinking that because SDMZ 2.0 is stronger than the goliath I took over the summer, should I take 2 pills every day for the first week, then drop down to 1 pill?
3) I do like to party, and would like to know what drugs/alcohol to stay away from and what I can use (in moderation). I'm really dedicated to not drinking, maybe once a week if I do, and lightly. I can probably go without weed for the whole 8 week cycle. Any thoughts on the oxycodone?
4) Are there any other supplements I could be using to stay as safe as possible during the cycle and get minimum sides??

I probly have more questions and will ask them later in this thread If I remember.

thanks for the help!

 

[SwoleChamp]

u should start feeling it around day 4-5.

 

[SwoleChamp]

fixed it for ya

 

[SwoleChamp]

questions

1) I read the back of the bottles and they all said take w/ food except the ACS, should I take the Anabolic Matrix and ACS at the same time in the day, like two at a time, or spread them out (1 AM / 1 PM)
2) I'm thinking that because SDMZ 2.0 is stronger than the goliath I took over the summer, should I take 2 pills every day for the first week, then drop down to 1 pill?
3) I do like to party, and would like to know what drugs/alcohol to stay away from and what I can use (in moderation). I'm really dedicated to not drinking, maybe once a week if I do, and lightly. I can probably go without weed for the whole 8 week cycle. Any thoughts on the oxycodone?
4) Are there any other supplements I could be using to stay as safe as possible during the cycle and get minimum sides??

I probly have more questions and will ask them later in this thread If I remember.

thanks for the help!

1. spread them out am and pm if at all possible
2. just stick with 2 pills everyday of the DMZ 2.0
3. I would recommend staying away from all drugs while on cycle or any other time...drink in moderation but remember that SDMZ 2.0 is toxic itself to the liver, this being said, i personally avoid alcohol when on cycle.
4. if you bought the complete cycle you should have everything covered.

hope this helps brother

 

[crazygains]

1. spread them out am and pm if at all possible
2. just stick with 2 pills everyday of the DMZ 2.0
3. I would recommend staying away from all drugs while on cycle or any other time...drink in moderation but remember that SDMZ 2.0 is toxic itself to the liver, this being said, i personally avoid alcohol when on cycle.
4. if you bought the complete cycle you should have everything covered.

hope this helps brother

thanks for the quick response and editing my post!
will look to see what others say but thanks for the advice

 

[GospelWarrior]

I don't mean this in a rude way, but stay off all drugs and alcohol while on cycle if you truly care about your body. It's a 4 week cycle. if you truly care you can do it. I love sweets, I mean love them, but I stay away from them until its cheat meal time. If you care enough you can do it. Drugs/alcohol on cycle is not wise.

 

[crazygains]

I don't mean this in a rude way, but stay off all drugs and alcohol while on cycle if you truly care about your body. It's a 4 week cycle. if you truly care you can do it. I love sweets, I mean love them, but I stay away from them until its cheat meal time. If you care enough you can do it. Drugs/alcohol on cycle is not wise.

word. If I live like a hermit I can definitely do this, but the people I hang out with and parties I go to always have alchohol/marijuana. It's not impossible, definitely, just kinda sucks when youre the one person who isn't drunk haha. I'll probly just go out once a week to stay away from alcohol easier.

also what sides are usually associated with super dmz 2.0?? I know the dymethazine is similiar to superdrol so I'm guessing lower back pains, acne, sweating... don't know much about methylsten's sides or the sides of both of them mixed together! All the posts on this forum just rave about how good this product is. But nothing's perfect especially prohormones. If I could get some honest responses about sides thatd be great.

 

[mastershake]

i agree about all drugs and alch. but i also love sweets and i personally dont think if you have something very small like a snack size musketeers or something it will be much effect. not talking about a whole bar but one of those small one bite things. in fact i usually will grab one of those each day just one to ease my sweets craving. but thats my extent.

 

[crazygains]

Last few pointers: All of your barbituates (opiate based-pain killers) are going to be harsh on the liver, don't take them while on cycle (that also includes most anti-depressants and things like coladopin, valium, and muscle-relaxers). Alcohol is going to impair protein synthesis, keep it to a minimum if you want to maximize gains. I can also help you eliminate 90% of all of your drug use if you want (leaving 10% recreational if you choose to continue on that road), including your doctor-prescribed Ritalin, as well as help you understand what you're taking and why you're taking it, if you want help PM me. Other than that, enjoy your cycle

thank you for the response and PM's, great videos! day 3 in cycle today, still haven't noticed much. I noticed that if I try to stand still my head still shakes (kinda weird). Man swallowing all these pills is a burden haha. I unfortunately got the biggest joint maitnence pills i've ever seen in my life. Was taking them in the car today and literally threw up... all over my windshield. Looking forward to hitting the gym tommorow though. Thank you all for the helpful responses. If you guys have any other pointers I'd love to hear them.

 

[crazygains]

I've read quite a few log reviews of this stuff and the only sides I've seen mentioned are back pumps and calf pumps so far, and 3-5g taurine daily should take care of that, also a few guys had loss of appetite, but they also ramped up their diet so sometimes it happens.... here's some of the main log links you can check out for yourself:
http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?72158-Kaotic-s-Super-DMZ-RX-2-0-Log
http://forums.rxmuscle.com/showthread.php?72343-Super-DMZ-RX-2-0-log-a-comprehensive-log-and-review
http://www.ironmaglabs.com/forums/showthread.php/1067-Push-50-s-Super-DMZ-2-0-Log

The stuff really is pretty bad-ass from everything I've seen so far.

those logs are nuts.... Is it gonna be pretty obvious I'm on something by day 30??

 

[crazygains]

Alright it's day 10 and the sdmz is definitely working. My lifts have ALL gone up and I can work out longer, harder, and with more intensity. But, I do want to be really secret about this... I work out with this personal trainer about twice a week and he mentioned today that I'm really getting stronger, and complimented my physique etc. It's only day 10 and I know the best results haven't come yet. I don't want my PT to know I'm taking a PH. I worked out with him for almost 3 years now, and he's a natural bodybuilder. I have mentioned over the past 2 weeks that I completely flipped my diet and stopped all drugs/alcohol, but I don't want everyone around me to think I'm on something... any tips for hiding results??? Around friends I can just wear bigger clothes, but at the gym I don't know what else I can tell my trainer haha. Should I bump it down to 1 pill a day? Or is there some other tips/tricks/excuses for getting much bigger in 4 weeks time...

Sides are surprisingly minimal though, just some lower back pain and lethargy.

 

[beretta9m2f]

Why hide the results? Why try to convince people you're naturally gaining mass when you are clearly not? I say just admit it and be proud. I understand if one needs to be incognito to avoid problems at the workplace. Seems weird to me that people try to hide or even deny aas/ph. If you don't want visible quick results, don't take ph.

 

[Adrenolin]

thank you for the response and PM's, great videos! day 3 in cycle today, still haven't noticed much. I noticed that if I try to stand still my head still shakes (kinda weird). Man swallowing all these pills is a burden haha. I unfortunately got the biggest joint maitnence pills i've ever seen in my life. Was taking them in the car today and literally threw up... all over my windshield. Looking forward to hitting the gym tommorow though. Thank you all for the helpful responses. If you guys have any other pointers I'd love to hear them.

Not recommended by IML in anyway:
Well if you're big on the party scene... crack the pills open and rail them. No alcohol though.

The drip will be god awful and you'll greatly appreciate them being encapsuled.

Why hide the results? Why try to convince people you're naturally gaining mass when you are clearly not? I say just admit it and be proud. I understand if one needs to be incognito to avoid problems at the workplace. Seems weird to me that people try to hide or even deny aas/ph. If you don't want visible quick results, don't take ph.

Yeah, as an experienced user myself, I always know when people are lying to me, and I find it hilarious how they try to change the subject.

 

[ZDawgKC]

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[ZDawgKC]

Just stick to your story man, Don't keep adding to it and making it more complicated. If you really want to hide the fact your on a PH then less deception is more and laugh it off when people ask you. If they ask if your on something just be a wise ass and tell em straight up... YUP! and laugh it off. If you make a deal about it and ST- STU- STUTTER up some bull shit excuse they will see right through you! Me personally I tell everyone who asks me "What are you doing your getting bigger?" I just tell em "Pro Hormones baby you like!?" It gets a laugh and people go about there business. My real advice is to drop the deception and OWN that shit brother! You put in the work, no one else, so screw em!